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    IIRC, that happened a few months ago, not now. A lot of schools are out for the summer already anyway. School staff did a great job of making the feds fuck off.

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        Now imagine how the parents of Uvalde felt. Police showed up, and not only did nothing, but actively prevented OTHER parents, who were showing up to storm the grounds to shoot the shooter themselves. But the police protected the shooter, causing the deaths of more kids. If memory serves me right, 12 kids had died before parents showed up. And something like 37 died by days end.

        Meaning, even if the police did nothing, and allowed the parents to go through, parents would have shot the shooter and saved 25 more kids.

        Imagine knowing your kid is dead because police were afraid.

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        I doubt it. American parents have their kids shot to pieces at schools and do nothing about it, assuming you’re an american I have my doubts you’d make any effort towards justice.

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            Everyone talks like they’re Liam Neeson from ‘Taken’ but the reality is no schools or ICE facilities were burned down by any parent or member of the community who’s children were abducted by unidentified feds. The government aren’t afraid because people like you blow hot air all day but they call your bluff over and over and win every time, I see a lot of talk but only two examples of somebody ante-ing up and doing something about it, and one of them missed by centimeters.

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                I’m sorry, I don’t mean you personally. In all honesty I agree with your initial statement in that I too would and do want proper justice for crimes against children, but then I’m immediately smacked in the face by the reality that we aren’t even close to seeing any of that kind of justice and all our tough talk doesn’t scare them one bit. We are grinding the same axe here, but i’m very perturbed by all this which has made me eager to fight and i’m sorry if I directed fighting words to you personally. We’re both strangers to eachother here after all, I have no way of knowing who you are, if 99.999…% of the time that sort of justice you mentioned never happens then how am I to NOT think you would be the same? I’m sure you’d WANT to burn down the school, much like I want to burn the Sacklers for killing 12 of my friends in the opioid epidemic, much like their parents who were deceived into dodgy perscriptions by doctors probably want to burn the whole thing down, nobody ever does.

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      Recent report I read and heard about was them staking out elementary school “graduations.” Caused parents to have to flee, which was rather depressing. The kids are likely birthright citizens, but even then, parents are afraid of deportation without representation (at least, according to interviews by KCRW/NPR).

      FYI btw, it’s like the last week of school here in LA for most districts, so any of these stories are still very plausible.

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        The kids are likely birthright citizens

        You say that like it matters to the fucking Mustard Mussolini.

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          California summer (the season/weather) starts and ends later than most places, so the later school starts the less kids and teachers have to bake in underfunded non-air conditioned classrooms.

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            I’m up in Merced, the kids got out last week, and that’s actually kinda late for the central valley. It’s probably different for you guys because SoCal is physically closer to hell, whereas the central valley is spiritually closer to it.

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    Can’t help wondering how many stone cold rapists and paedophiles are out there pretending to be ICE and kidnapping people.

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    In Annecy, Frnace, there’s a plaque on one of the elementary schools where Jewish kids were forcibly removed from class by the ss and taken away. Same shit’s starting to happen in America now.

    Kill the fascists, disrupt their plans. Fuck them.

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      They’ll run into a classroom where kids are drawing, and claim they feared for their lives, because the pens could be used to harm them.

      Then they’ll get 2-6 weeks paid leave, and be promoted when they get back.

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          More likely to be “let go” only to be rehired one county over immediately. That’s what they do with the cops with records that they can’t simply handwave away.

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          Gold standard:

          Be able to draw from concealment and hit a 6” steel circle at 10 yards in under 1.5 seconds. Every time, 10 draws in a row.

          Ensure you can perform an elpresidente stage run in 6.5 seconds with all hits in the alpha scoring zone.

          You can perform a fast drill in under 7 seconds, 3 times in a row back to back.

          Your splits at 7 yards are under 2 tenths.

          Your draw, shoot, reload, shoot on a 7 yard 6” steel plate is under 2.5 seconds. 10 times in a row.

          Amateurs train until they get it right. Professionals train until they can’t get it wrong.

          You always fall in the moment to the level of your training, so absolutely train if you decide to arm yourself. Otherwise you have given someone in power the ability to take lethal force from you and use it against you, or worse, you have misapplied it and harmed someone you did not intend to.

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      2 guns. AR-15 and Glock. Primary and sidearm. Or if you have the money, might as well get a Beretta 92FS as a sidearm.

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    America is completely and utterly fucked. There’s obviously no way Trump will run for president for a third term, but under the new fascist state, there isn’t a constitution to contest for said third term. He’ll be leader until death.

    But hey, thank your stupid god that you believe in so firecely that you’ve got that second amendment in your constitution you so adamantly demanded you need for times just like this to have your guns to use and overthrow your tyrannical government. Oh wait. Right; you’re all fucking bark and no bite.

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      No, it was always a bad-faith argument so they could hold onto tools for killing brown people.

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        I dunno… I like having my tools for stopping fascist threats against my person and my fellow trans community

        Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater

        Criminals will manufacture weapons regardless, just look at the freedom fighters in Myanmar using FGC Mk.II 3d printed guns.

        You can make weapons out of hardware store parts

        You can’t make a mill illegal

        You won’t take CNC machines

        Criminals behavior is the crime, not the knowledge or the means

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      until death.

      Good idea.

      that second amendment

      Most 2A nuts most likely voted for Mango Mussolini.

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    This would make me go nuclear.

    Kidnapping our kids?

    You want a primal reaction? This will fast track it.

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      They do want that reaction. They’re provoking normal people into violence to allow them to show an emergency and thus bring in the entire army

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        It’s inevitable that it will happen. Whether someone wants it or not is irrelevant. If children are being kidnapped that’s an appropriate response.

        You stop them. With smoke if necessary.

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          The thing is that lashing out to the lackeys doesn’t change much. The empire doesn’t care if they lose a bunch of stormtoopers, that is what they get hired for, it only cares if it loses a few emperors.

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        Given the fact that that have been doing this to young, white, blond haired Canadian girls, it is only a matter time before the white kids of liberals and left leaning people get snatched. And probably some from conservatives who still have a microgram of sense and a drop of compassion left.

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          This is more about racial/ethnic scapegoating (one of the central tenets of fascism) than you’d think.

          The ideas here is not that different from Hitler’s they just haven’t come right out and said it.

          That isn’t to say white people shouldn’t be worried. Fascism is designed to rapidly centralize power by telling the majority they’re part of the ‘in’ crowd while in reality they will also be put through the meat grinder so that in the end it is only the state that survives.

          Basically we work our way back to a monarchy and future geberations will have to wait for the next magna carta.

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      it would be good if this was your reactive to anyone getting kidnapped.

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    I wonder how a person wakes up one day and says to him/herself: i want to kidnap children when i grow up

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      To be fair, i did that, but i was aiming for a witchy mysterious throw-them-in-the-oven sorta way, and dropped that aspiration just about the second i learned the only people who kidnap children nowadays are pedophiles.

      It’s just not the right cultural moment for reclaiming that.

      Please feel free to prove there’s a single ice agent that’s not a pedophile. Edit: then maybe i can start on my childhood dream of being a terrible witch who throws kids in my oven and/or cauldron.

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      I think it’s more about following your passion and just one day finding yourself behind the steering wheel.

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      “The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil.” ~ Hannah Arendt

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    You know what can turn a normal parent into a “dOMestIC tERroRIst”?.. fucking with their kids

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    Remember everyone. Due processes is there to determine if the activity is criminal. You are not a criminal until you have been convicted.

    Saying anyone does not deserve due process bc they are a criminal is factually wrong

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      It’s that or be killed.

      Imagine a 1st grader in an El Salvadorian prison. Then remember that Trump’s staff is full of eugenicists.

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      Well the post body does include an abc7 video report. But thanks for additional sources.

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        I dont think its ever wise to trust an article headline, let alone a wall of text and a screen cap of a news video from a random internet user.

        DHS has been stating they would be doing wellness checks since April under the pretense that they are preventing human trafficking. I cannot tell from any article I have read of them trying to visit schools if that is what they are actually after or not.

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        Reminder that Sen. Mitt Romney wanted TikTok banned because it accurately reported on Gaza than the media, showing the active murders happening.

        They want citizen’s platforms banned and discredited because it tells truth to power.

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        You mean you trust media that can’t be held responsible more than media that actually loses reputation when they do something wrong and can be sued?

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          So they’ll be sued for failing to report Trump’s rise to power soon?

          Rupert Murdock will be sued for aiding in Fox News? And the deaths he helped caused? The people who he had mobs form because of false accusations of pedophilia?

          The WDMs in Iraq that the New York Times helped to sell to the American public?

          Reporting that COVID is gone, we don’t need to worry about it anymore?

          Israel’s war crimes being covered up by the media because it looks better?

          They’ll be sued and lose reputation now, right?

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          You mean you trust media that can’t be held responsible more than media that actually loses reputation when they do something wrong and can be sued?

          No I trust media which does lose reputation and can be held accountable for when they publish massieve conspiracy theories such as Alex Jones did.

          Unlike legacy media such as New York Times which makes up fake rape accusations against whatever country America needs to smear next and gets away with it without repercussions.

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    Nobody’s asking the real question: Why are first graders driving unmarked cars to begin with?