• tazeycrazy@feddit.uk
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    This sounds like a job for kitboga. That thing wouldn’t have got past the first question.

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    It didn’t go haywire. At all. It did exactly what it was supposed to do, which is parrot what the applicant said, after LLM grammar collection, to make sure the bot heard it right. The fact that these bots are bonkers dumb is a fact, but it didn’t “go haywire”.

    I’m still in utter shock that companies use this shit. Human resources, ffs. Human.

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        That is very important to understand, and a lot of people don’t get that. Another thing people don’t understand is that HR is not there to serve you, they are there to protect the company from you.

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      thank you. I read the thread and watched the video expecting some bonkers ramblings from an LLM that had somehow been jailbroken or something.

      What I actually watched is the system working as designed (more or less) and basically wasted 30s of my life watching the modern equivalent of some rando entering garbage answers into a company’s digital resume entry form.

      I’m as sceptical of LLMs as the next man, but honestly this creator isn’t exactly doing their narrative any favours.

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        AI resources can have their word. Let’s build out a storage closet into a tiny office, stick the server with all the locally hosted models on there, give it a separate internet access for the cloud-hosted ones and let them sit in there and have all the words they want with their beloved text generstors. They know a lot or words. All the destroyed books have to have gone somewhere, after all.

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          “I am afraid the data we collected on your persona does not fit our corporate vision anymore. Please collect your severance package at level 03 desk 7, with this QR code”

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    It’s funny that corporations are like “no one wants to work” but also don’t want to do the work of interviewing candidates

      • I want to work.

        I just want to work building and fixing bicycles.

        Unfortunately, I can’t make enough money doing that in my area without being attached to a company. If I could work out of my garage, that’d be great. I already have all the tools I’d need.

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          Unfortunately, I can’t make enough money doing that in my area without being attached to a company.

          Most of that is because Google, Facebook and other giant tech companies gatekeep you from finding any customers. It’s not because the customers don’t exist, it’s because the customers have been trained to find you with Google search, then look at Google reviews, check you out on your Google site, and maybe if they’re really serious check Facebook too.

          The question then becomes, without the tech giants standing in the middle, how do you find customers and how do customers find you? Easier said than done, you might think, and you might be right. But I believe with patience and an understanding of old-school, pre-tech-giant advertising and some creativity on how you adapt it to today’s world and tomorrow’s, whatever that will be, I think it might be easier than you imagine. Remember that the tech-giants and gatekeepers also propagandize their dominance so that you don’t see any other path as viable. They don’t want you to try other things, and they’ll come at you sideways to make you believe it’s too risky, that you’re already failing or prevent you from committing enough to actually succeed.

          Part of the problem is patience. They’ve built their platforms based on instant gratification and shortening attention spans. It may take time to build a business outside their system. You will need financial runway, maybe more than you think, and you’ll need time on the runway to start to get enough air under your wings to lift off, and at first it won’t seem like you’re making any progress no matter how hard you’re pushing. This is enough to make most people quit. They count on that.

          If I could work out of my garage

          The economy is ripe for this kind of shift, I think. I don’t know if we’re there yet, but “shop small, shop local” is the only way out of this tech-giant megacorporation dystopia, and I see signs that people are starting to figure that out, or even just be forced into it while looking for the gray and black market economic options as people increasingly find themselves priced out of the “normal” economy in sector after sector.

          If the economy is no longer working for people (and it’s clearly not), they will naturally seek alternatives. This isn’t even really a philosophical choice as much as it is a practical inevitability.

          When the existing economic system becomes unfair, unjust, and unlivable, the only rational choice is to opt-out of that system. This is one potential path out of it, if enough people choose it, it can succeed. There are many other possible paths out of it too, most of them are far less pleasant. Time will tell where we end up.

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          You should try it part time if you’re able. You might be surprised. At least in my area there is a growing demand for good bicycle mechanics.

          I started fixing stuff out of my garage ~10yr ago to make some extra cash between jobs and it became my career.

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      I was hiring for an entry level position a few months ago. Service desk type work. I either got people who were fabricating their CV to get an interview or insanely over qualified. It took a LONG time to hire the right guy.

      At no point did I ever think, gee I wonder if I can get AI to read these CVs or do the interview for me. Christ knows what I would have ended up with.

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          They typically won’t take the job or won’t like the job. You don’t want to hire someone for a position if they don’t actually want that specific position, because there’s a reason that’s the vacancy. Both candidate and HR have to judge if it fits

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            People applying for jobs below their experience level have likely already tried applying for jobs at their own experience level (if they’re hiring at all) and run into stupid recruiters demanding way too much for the position. Unless it’s an extreme disparity, just let them. I’ve spent a lot longer unemployed than I would’ve if recruiters like that just offered me something, and avoiding growing debt is more motivating at that point than you might think.

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              Could be that, but that would also be legitimate, wouldn’t it? And it could also mean it’s not the right fit, or the candidate will pursue a different offer, or leave soon, or want a different position soon, or all kinds of other problems.

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                  Hiring is about more than just “can they do it”. That’s the issue. HR isn’t trying to fuck you over. They want the best fit and that isn’t necessarily the most qualified candidate.

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            That’s the excuse they give yes. But given the current job market and the fact that the person is applying for the job, they may not like the job but they’re probably not going to be able to find anything better so there is little risk to the company.

            The real reason they don’t want to hire over qualified people is because they’re likely to raise up in the ranks and become a problem for the recruiters themselves. Has anyone ever met a genuinely competent HR person?

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              The real reason from what I’ve heard is that people will apply for any job, yes, but they’ll also leave right away once they find a better job. So for HR to hire somebody overqualified, they have to really be desperate.

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                Overqualified people apply for lower jobs BECAUSE there’s nothing better to leave for at the moment (with exceptions)

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                  I mean HR has to be desperate, not the job seeker.

                  HR people would hire them, were it not for the experience of these people leaving the moment there’s a better job.

                  Overqualified is a proxy for how likely are they to stay in the position long enough to make it worth hiring them.

                  For high turnover roles, like entry level retail or restaurants, there is no problem hiring someone overqualified; when they leave in 3-6 months, that’s par for the course, the business is always having to hire replacements.

                  But for knowledge jobs where it takes a few months just to get someone up to speed, you can see why hiring managers want to avoid hiring someone who is likely to leave soon.

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        Isn’t it remotely concerning to you that you are getting people who are over qualified for a job? Even if you don’t use AI to interview people everyone else is using AI to interview people or straight up replacing people with AI.

        I think we’re finished either way.

        You never know though, maybe the government will grow a brain and come up with universal income.

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          If governments do UBI, capitalists will just raise prices by that amount and people will still be struggling the same. What we really need is for the people to grow a brain and do a socialist revolution.

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      It is funny to see the AI mindlessly mirror his word salad, but he didn’t exploit anything. The interview will just be rejected by whoever reviews the result.

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        The other thing though, is if we all posted real sentences that did not make sense, regularly, we poison the AI models going forward, and they don’t have the employees to sift through it all. It’s not my idea, there are groups into getting this to spread, it’s an easy, and frankly fun, way we can help fuck them.

        To have impact we need larger numbers, but even without it, who is to say which error stemmed from where? I mean it was already chiefly trained on reddit so we are half way there already!

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    Oh so they are now using AI to screen out the AI, but now the applicants are going to use AI avatars to talk to AI avatars on the other side thus showing the insane progress in efficiency AI has created. Efficient at gobbling up energy anyway.

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    Please hear me when I tell you that hiring is super fucked. Specifically, or especially, in IT.

    Hugely profitable corporations laying off thousands is a crime.

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    Two plumes of gauze and then the raccoon protocol.

    First quarter, but sideways. Drill bit. You know?

    That was gold.

    I do this sort of thing as an exercise for writing, in an attempt to free my mind. Write grammatically correct sentences, that make no sense.

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      That was the way to do it from the start. They turned in unison to examine the hole, pulses racing. He had had raspberry jam for breakfast, uncharacteristically. The glue pot didn’t spill, because it couldn’t.

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    I used to play with Eliza on an Apple II, trying to get it to say weird stuff. Seems like things haven’t changed all that much.

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    Honestly, maybe it’s time to go back to the days of submitting your application in person.

    I think that’s better for everyone at least for local jobs, anyway.