Just curious with the Fields debate. Has there ever been a QB mid-way through their 3rd year or later with so much uncertainty develop into a reliable starting QB? Alex Smith comes to mind but obviously wasn’t good enough to keep his position.
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Jared Goff
Someone explain this. If you watch the first half of almost all our games we were balling offensively. KC is the only one we were bad all around. Second half and Getsy tries to make both our QB’s drop back passers. STUPID!! The O line is just now coming together and playing decent. Why would you take one of the most dynamic athletes in the league and try to make him Dan Marino??? You can still hand the ball off from the shotgun, rpo, put him in motion to either side. That brings the LB’s up opening more of the field. I’ve been a Bears fan since 66 and Fields has the potential to be a premier passer qb in this league. But, Getsy is going to ruin him trying to make him Rodgers.
That’s kinda the reason for my post. I know he’s been injured but we’re midway through his third season and still talking about potential. He Intermediate game is still very much lacking and he takes too many sacks. Hopefully it was the OL that was the problem and he’ll prove the doubters wrong the rest of the year. I was just looking for examples of that actually happening in the past. Most people listed changes coaches/team. Can these coaches and Fields get it done and if not who goes. Coaches, Fields, both or give everyone one more year. I am rooting for him.
Geno Smith had been pretty much written off as a journeyman backup prior to coming to Seattle where he has consistently outplayed Russell Wilson over the past season and a half.
Geno Smith?
Could Fields turn it around? He could. Is it likely? No.
We did start to see him turn it around before he got hurt…
Dude threw for over 600 yards and 8 touchdowns in the 2 games prior to him getting hurt.
Does no one remember this?
We pretending the rest of the Vikings game didn’t happen before his injury?
Geno Smith had a year last year.
Josh Allen
4,500 yards, 35 TDs and 10 INTs his 3rd year. He turned it around halfway through his 2nd season.
Was already great at this point of his career.
Drew Brees
You wouldn’t know it from the constant idiocy on here but fields numbers and pff are actually improving this year. We’ll see if it continues
Which is why he has thr same 3.7% int rate as a rookie? Still has an atrocious completion %? Has the same 38% success rate as a rookie? Has a higher sack % than a rookie?
He’s up in yards and touchdowns. Which is dj Moore, not fields. While his legs have been neutered Which was the only thing he was great at last year.
I get you hate the guy but his passer rating and pff are climbing each year. I also think hes still fast lol
Continuing to be prove that anyone who uses passer rating is admitting they have nothing to actually say.
Here’s the qbs fields passing grade is at
#22 fields, #23 a rapist #24 Jimmy g #25 Sam Howell #26 Kenny Pickett #27 mac Jones
The real cream of the crop.
I said its improving not that its amazing, but youre looking to vent emotions not hear information, have a good night 😘
Vinny Testaverde was bad in Tampa. Decent in New York.
Tannehill was bad at Miami. Decent with the Titans
Tannehill was better in Miami than Tennessee. Outside of one season in Tennessee he’s been terrible.
Alex Smith & Drew Brees are 2 players that come to mind. Geno Smith as well.
Josh McCown as well, but not as a starter.
Josh Allen didn’t put it together for a while
But he showed growth every season something Fields has not
Fields has literally gotten better ever season in every meaningful metric
SPOILER ALERT:
They won’t 🤣
Kirk Cousins and Goff’s transition is still early but he seems to be on the Cousins route. In the more average tier, Tannehill. It seems more common that qbs take a long time to develop vs the instant hit in year 1/2.
Smith had 1 good season in his career.where was the turn around?
Don’t forget Kirk Cousins.
Dude was a 4th rounder meant to back up fellow rookie RG3.
RG3 isn’t even in the league and Kirk Cousins is considered a top tier QB, if not S tier this season (before the injury) then at least A tier.
Can we stop it with S tier already. Some idiot invented S Tier for when something goes so beyond excellent, an A tier cannot contain it.
Now people create S tiers for 15% of whatever the fuck they are listing . So dumb. Sorry I had to drop this rant on you though. Haha
Vinny Testaverde.
The drew brees in San Diego was actually decent. It was the injury that made them move to rivers.
As a Justin supporter I absolutely support drafting a top QB and not forcing him to start in this mess immediately… if Justin fails with a QB prospect on the roster fine. But this team is kind of a mess and letting a rookie work through their flaws in practice for 8 games is perfectly fine to me. I just don’t want to ruin 2 prospects with this teams dysfunction. Plus what happens if Justin balls out? We increase his trade value which only helps us
a bunch.
Punting on Fields in favor of possibly really good QB prospects is one thing. Punting on Fields just because he’s not an all-pro QB halfway through his 3rd season is another.
Let’s see how the season plays out
It’s punting on fields because he’s a bottom 3 qb.
Let’s not pretend it’s because we’re figuring out if he’s great instead of Good. We’re figuring out is he average or terrible.
Every year, so yes?
I’ve had this thought a bunch lately. Alex Smith came to mind as well as Steve Young, who was forgettable as a Buccaneer before gong to SanFran. Brett Farve was traded to GB before he took off. You can perhaps put Tua in there also. I’m sure theres a couple more but they’re rare and the common denominator for each is getting paired with a great offensive coach. I’m rooting for Justin big time but this organization has done absolutely nothing to help him become great. Drafted by a lame duck GM and Coach only to then be given a defensive HC by a new GM who clearly wasn’t hired to build around him. If Justin pulls this off and proves himself here, he will have done it alone. If/when Justin leaves, he could be one good coach away from reaching his potential.
I was all in on the year three leap and following the Allen and Hurts path when we got Moore. Justin’s personality and big play ability make it really easy to root for him. I completely agree he’s handed a raw deal to start his career which lead me to this post. Hoping for success for sure but also realistic that with rookie contract ending and high draft pick it will have to be a hell of a 2nd half of a season for him to keep the Bears from drafting another QB.