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    No. And it may have contributed to the anti science and anti vaccine shit that has been floatung around. Just being a contrarian isnt helpful

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      They haven’t just contributed, Genx is the anti-vaccine generation.

      Boomers and silent generation remember what diseases were like and get their vaccines.

      Millienals are more anti-vaccine than boomers or silent generation but far less than gen-x.

      Gen-x has never held itself accountable. They are worse than boomers in so many ways and some of their stupid has leaked into the infected the thinking of millennial and even gen-z generations.

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        Blaming Millennial and Gen Z conservatives on Gen X alone is wild. How about we focus on the billionaire propaganda machines of social media and mainstream news. Zuckerberg is a millennial and his platforms have done more damage to teenage brains than we realize yet.

        Absolutely critique people and people groups when they deserve it, but this whole generational obsession is exactly what those fucking us over want. Any place to blame but on them is good for them.

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        Fuck you as a Gen xer I resent you calling me anti vax. I am all for vaccination and all my kids are vaxed.

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          “Gen x is the antivax generation” literally means “gen x has a higher % of antivaxxers than other generations”

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              I haven’t ever looked into this. But it got me curious so now I’m looking. I haven’t seen one for vaccines in general yet, but I did find one study about generational differences in opinions on the covid vaccine in particular.

              Interesting read, I’m still digesting the data. Seems like, compared to Gen z and millennials, Gen x was more in favor of the covid vax in this study.

              Again, yes this is just about the covid vax, but there’s probably a decent overlap in the groups

              https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8882364/

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                Covid-only will skew things massively. Disinformation wars really went to town on that one.

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                  Yea I have no idea how much it skews, that’s why I made it painfully clear. But it does still talk about the generational imprinting of the major events that the various generations experienced.

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              I’m just translating.

              There was a skew to trump among gen x ers. But richer people tend to live longer so that’s not an uncommon trend.

              Imo, I would expect the antivaxxers to be more common in generations with school age kids because it is media-slop targeted at parents. I’d like to see the sources myself.

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          I didn’t, so you can direct that fuck right back at yourself and your terrible reading comprehension.

          Your generation is the anti vax movement. That doesn’t mean everyone in the generation is anti vax.

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            Kind of hard to comprehend your language when you don’t seem to know how it works.

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              You’re inability to parse it is on you.

              Your choice to attack and dimiss what I’m saying rather than seek clarification, also on you.

              Anyone who cannot get over a few weird autocorrects is clearly not interested in discourse.

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                Your choice to attack

                Have you ever heard the phrase “pot calling the kettle black”?

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                  That was literally your first interaction with me in this thread.

                  I’m calling out Gen X for creating the anti vax movement. No one, including you has attempt to refute that fact.

                  Your first interaction with me was to question my ability to communicate. That is an attack on me, the messenger by the message.

                  It is ridiculous for anyone to claim I am attacking them personally for pointing out a characteristic of a group, even if it’s a group they identify with.

                  It also shows a resistance to accountability which I also mentioned.

                  It’s not hard to acknowledge these things are true while stating they do not apply to you personally but that’s not what you or anyone else has done.

                  You choose to make it about me and continue to do so and will continue to do so because you choose to do so.

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    This would make sense if they didn’t vote for the people promising to fuck it up worse. (US politics only, I don’t know how generational breakdown goes in other countries)

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    Gen X contrarianism is some stupid boomer shit. Its no wonder so many of them are divorced maga conspiracy morons now.

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      The biggest fear that Gen X has is that their parents might disapprove of them.

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    Cynicism, nihilism and distancing oneself from everything is not going to build anything good or allow others to succeed.

    So no, not correct, not good, just a terrible mindset that will drag everyone down with you.

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    I thought we were known for apathy since we were constantly told growing up that our generation was the first for whom things would be worse than our parents. I don’t have a sneering distrust of everything, just cynicism towards massive, systemic injustice in the world.

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    Gen X turned out to be more right wing than boomers, perpetuating the bullshit you all distrust.

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      I’m elder millennial and remember when gasoline switched from leaded to unleaded. I think GenX got exposed to the historical maximum of leaded gas fumes (in the US)

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        Nah, that’s boomers.

        Most countries cut out leaded petrol for good when x’ers were rolling around their teens / early 20’s, boomers copped it their entire lives well into middle age. The famous reduction of violence when it started getting cut? Wasn’t gen-x’ers doing that shit in the 70’s.

        I’ve often suspected it’s why we’re seeing older generations get batshit as rhey age. Lead can be uptaken into bones, and leach back out as the bone degrades. Like, say, with age

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          There’s been a few studies that have been looking into the effect of lead in the environment and its effects on mental acuity as the person gets older. It’s not a wide confirmation but the start that as Boomers get older, they are literally going insane from lead.

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              Know that quote from Lincoln? I’ll paraphrase it. You can fool some people all the time. You can fool some of the people all the time. But eventually they’ll wisen up. That’s what happened here. It seems the Gen Z men are wisening up, slowly though with reports and statistics I’ve seen.

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            Weren’t they the Me generation starting when they were kids? And they were able to be both, they were the hippies and the yuppies. And free love didn’t mean love, it meant “sleep around without commitment”. The hippies were interesting in part because while there were and still are genuine people committed to a lot of their higher ideals, a significant portion were the sort to pursue free love for their own pleasure and enlightenment for their own sake. All this to say they seriously pushed sexual culture towards increased freedom

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      So apparently you haven’t looked at demographic trends over the last ten years because shockingly middle aged dudes have become the progressives among males. Not that they’ve moved to the left, but young men have swung so far to the right, it’s terrifying.

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        So apparently you haven’t looked at demographic trends over the last ten years because shockingly middle aged dudes have become the progressives among males.

        It’s why centrists are so keen on labeling us teenagers. It makes me feel so young.

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        Gen X males were the bigger supporters of the Republican party than even boomers in the last election. I’m not sure which demographics you think I’m not paying attention to.

        The swing in youth is noteworthy because it was a suddenc change, and the youth rarely support Republicans to much degree. Not that they were the biggest supporters

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          Young people and progressives don’t vote.

          The swing is a global phenomenon. It’s not just about your republican party.

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            I don’t know why you’re trying to argue with me. Nothing I said contradicts what you’re saying here.

            But apparently me mentioning US parties in conversation about US-centric generational labels offended you somehow.

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    What a dumpster fire of a comment section this is. I wouldn’t even know where to begin.

    Anyways. It all goes show how counter culture anti-establishmentarianism has been co-opted and usurped by conservatives. This is by design to destroy the field of play.

    It wasn’t a gen-x thing. This generational thing is a new invention and a weapon used to divide us. They put us in a ring and threw that knife in the circle, leaving us to fight to the death.

    I know you smartypants are already typing out the, “hurr hurr generational strife has always been a thing”. Just stop.

    The era of counter culture had its last hurrah around the time of Occupy. After which the world memory-holed it and entered the era of whatever the fuck this is right now. People too young for that era don’t have the lived experience to comprehend a totally different frame of mind that isn’t the way it’s been now. It’s only when they experience a massive world shift that they might possibly conceptualize such a thing. People who do have lived experience of the before times have largely forgotten.

    This whole comment section is self evident. You’re applying the lens of the current zeitgeist over a different one and it amounts to little more than incoherent ramblings.

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      I had a difficult time understanding what you mean but I definitely agree that we need to stop focusing on the generational stuff. It’s capitalists vs normal people and if we don’t fight back against that core, from social democracy and democratic socialism on through, the neoliberal crisis will only worsen.

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      I miss when we used to talk about things as decades instead of generations. After the 90s it became Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z, Gen Alpha…

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      And yet you’re too young to have experienced what it was like when the very concept of the teenager was created. You wanna talk about a shift?

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      I think they’re all at least fifty by now. I’m in the middle of the millennial years and I’m pushing 40.

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        The cutoff between GenX and Millennial is usually given as 1980, which means there are some 46-year-old GenXers. Sometimes 1978-1982 is described as a “microgeneration” called “Xennials,” so if you’re making that distinction, you’d still have 49-year-old Xers from 1977.

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            This just shows how dumb the idea of “generations” is. Someone who’s 51 will have a lot in common with someone who’s 49, even if they’re in a different “generation”. Someone who’s 30 won’t have much in common with either of them, even if they’re the same “generation”.

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    I don’t even understand this one. It’s this a thing for Gen x? I feel like Gen x is more known for complacency.

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        Exactly, just watch early 90s Simpson’s older teenagers, meh. That summed up gen x in a lot of media.

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      That’s just a side effect from the belief that nothing important was fixable because the interests that kept them that way were too entrenched.

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      It’s more apathy than complacency, after years of our cynicism being fully vindicated. A cynic is just a disappointed optimist.

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    In my experience, online gen xers are the first ones to say, “Actually, if you were a serious person, you’d understand that Democrats can’t do [wildly popular thing their base is begging them to do] because of [stupid, made up reason], and that [Democratic leader’s] decision to [do incredibly unpopular thing the donors want] is a brilliant strategy.”

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    Yeah everyone loves a parent who knows their kids will be shit so they dont bother loving them preemptively or aiding them in any way.
    They make such good parents that make a better world by ignoring and having no faith or care. So cool. Much wow.