If they’d wanted us to call Itchio Itch, they shouldn’t have called it Itchio.
Similarly, if they’d wanted us to call Gnome Ganome, they shouldn’t have called it Gnome.
Maybe English should just get rid of the stupid “the first consonant is silent when two consonants form the beginning of a word” rule tbf.
It’s a skill issue to mispronounce loan words (like gnome, pterodactyl or psychology).
English is a hideous mongrel of a language.
I was already an adult when I learned that “salmon” is supposed to be pronounced as “sammon”.
Thanks for the painful laugh, Gugulethu
Wait wait wait… How are baked and naked supposed to be pronounced?
I think, e is silent in baked and not in naked. But that’s kind of like Sean Bean
I’ve been pronouncing naked as baked for a while now. Thankfully it doesn’t come up in conversation as often.
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Funny you mention Germanic languages, given how deterministic German itself is on pronunciation of letters.
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Gotcha. I wish more languages were like German in their adherence to letter-phoneme pairing.
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out of curiosity, do you speak another language than English?
I sure don’t!
ah, I was wondering because, in comparison to my native tongue (French), I’ve found English significantly more intuitive. I may be biased though, or French may just be another mongrel of a language 😅
My uneducated feeling so far is that most languages weren’t developed with particularly logical rules, and rules were added retroactively, and as such, most languages are ugly amalgamations, but English gets some of the worst rep because of its dominance on the internet.
If you don’t pronounce the p in pterodactyl or psychiatrist then lose my number
If I start pronouncing them, can I get your number?
You just want to see the pretty bunnies, won’t you?
Who wouldn’t
Tortoise might be fine too
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Snail, small, three, press, change. I could keep going.
I’ve never heard of that rule. There are a few combos that are basically always that way though: pt, gn, and kn come to mind.
And then there are the cases where two consonants combine to form another sound entirely: ph, ch, sh, th.
English is a mix and match of a bunch of other languages
You just got gnomed!
was looking exactly for this
People who say guh -nome are the same sick psychos who pronounce GIF “Jiff”.
Knice to meat you
Found the KDE user!
or Jiraffe, Giraffe.
That format was a gift to the world.
a gigantic and gargantuan achievement that enabled memes that make you giddy when you get the gist of their jokes
but yeah who cares what the dude says, language evolves and its pronounced gif now
So all French people
French people are definitely psychos so that makes sense
As a non-native english speaker who thought I had finally grasped the english language can confirm I, in fact, hadn’t (I pronounce gnome as “guhnome” also as in “garden guhnome”, I had no idea)
How do you pronounce gnocci, gnat, etc? They may start with a ‘g’ but the proper pronunciation is just /n/.
I know to pronounce the italian gnocchi as ñoki (like it was also mentioned above) but believe it or not, people here pronounce it with like “guh-notchi” same in “guh-nat” It’s just some Slavic languages (I cant speak for all) pronounce every letter in words, so there is this tendency. PS: thanks for reminding me, the “g” in gnat is silent xD
My mother tongue very rarely completely mutes the sound of letters. More often, they are just deadened. So I can’t help but pronounce a little bit of G at the beginning of those words.
Making a fork of GNOME called GGNOME fr
gg, nome
no re(base)
my brain is ruined. my head voice said “Gee-Guh-Nome”
It’s a French fork of GGNOME?
GG Normie
I use KDE because I never want to have to worry about how to pronounce it. There is no ambiguity with KDE, it’s just K D E
Guess I’ll pronounce it Kh Duh from now on!
And it isn’t a tablet ui.
I am still thoroughly confused whether I should call it KDE or Plasma or Plasma Desktop. Like, what is the difference?
KDE is the author, Plasma is the application. There is ambiguity since they don’t make more than one desktop environment - so all are good.
But also the desktop environment used to be called KDE until 2009 (Kool Desktop Environment)
But there’s no ambiguity in how to pronounce any of it
Kiddie
Now pronounce Qt.
Well, that’s easy. That must be “Kut”, which, not surprisingly means cunt in Dutch.
I’ve actually seen discussions online and met one person who said it’s “K-DE” (kay-dee), so it’s not a sure thing.
So now you’ll have to find something else, hehe.
Krazy person that was
I feel like if I’m pronouncing any Linux package for the first time, there’s some tongue-in-cheek “um, actually” trap hidden just around the corner for some self-righteous geek to correct you with a big smirk on their face because they get to feel smarter, which I used to be guilty of, but try to cut back on as much as I can these days.
It’s a fun joke at first, but I kind of got tired of it after a while, and just decided that politely educating in context and ignoring it otherwise feels way nicer.
I’ve never met anyone who took this seriously in real life. Like they know what you mean and will joke about the pronunciation. But I read a lot more about these holy wars online.
Phonetically it’s pronounced “K-D-E-is-superior”
But hey, language is protean. It evolves and flows like a river, daddy-o.
KDE MFs be like, “it’s very intuitive.” Meanwhile it looks like this:
You are correct. But you are missing the most important button. Right in the middle of that table there is a big red button that says “autopilot - Manage all these things for me and I can play with a few of those other buttons, or all, or even none, and the rest doesn’t have to be touched by the user unless they want to”
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again.
Gnome is very aesthetic, but I swear it’s useless. You open Gnome Something Utility and it opens a flat, empty window with no elements at all except up in the top bar there’s a hamburger menu and a button that says “Do Something.” It’s perfectly rendered and kerned, it does something, as long as you want it to do the default something and you don’t want to so something slightly different. The Gnome Something Utility is called Something in all menus but the name of the executable is GSU and there’s no convenient way to find that out.
KDE is configurable but kind of homely. It’s damn near impossible to get two adjoining widgets to have the same font size and kerning. When you launch Komething, you are met by a baffling array of text boxes, radio buttons and drop-downs, there are menus and tabs, none of which are lined up quite right giving it a kind of Windows 98 era jank to it. You can do every kind of Something, Something Else and Something Completely Different under the sun. There are professional closed-source Something apps that don’t have the features of Komething, but it looks like a Half Life mod configuration wizard a teenager made in 1999.
Cinnamon is somewhere between those two extremes.
Also every two versions, Gnome will decide that the way Something used to be done was Bad, and Wrong, and we will never talk about it again, for now we will all embrace the new and inconvenient way of doing Something, which is clearly superior.
That’s the main thing I reject about Gnome. It’s not like the other girls.
Modern gnome sucks. gnome 2 was peak imo.
Which is what MATE is. It’s "No, we’re gonna keep doing Gnome 2.
Yeah, and I tried MATE but it just doesn’t hit the same. I mostly use cinnamon and xfce these days.
Ahh! Home!
Just need to paint all panels and table surfaces black and highlight the knobs and dials.
Nice, so I can read all I want on keto?
Jnome, like gif.
If gif is pronounced gif, then gnome should be pronounced gnome
Like the peanut butter?
Choosy moms choose gif.
Gi gives the g a j sound. Like gist, gibberish, giraffe, giant do at least that one is easy to pick up on.
I love how you state that as a fact as if words like give, gift, gill, gibbon, giddy, etc don’t exist.
please tell me you call it JIT-HUB.
I do now.
Hi Jinny
Gi gives
You will also note that the pronunciation of gif is debated despite me saying it’s easy to pick up on.
It was a tongue-in-cheek response. The English alphabet doesn’t convey pronunciation.
Gift
that’s evil gnome, if written in Java
Meanwhile, me, a non-native English speaker:
One does not learn English the language, one simply memorises it
The G is silent in English words starting with gn. Gnarly gnats is pronounced narly nats.
There’s not a lot of those words anyway
Gnu and gnome are exceptions only when used to describe the software. The gnu animal and the mythical gnome creature are pronounced with silent gs.
The only way to learn what something sounds like as a non-native speaker is to look it up or listen to someone pronounce it. There are no rules – or at least no useful rules, because any rule will have many exceptions. Even different English dialects differ in how to pronounce words. There’s simply no making sense of it.
For example, in many British English dialects, the “a” in “can” and the one in “can’t” are pronounced completely differently, despite “can’t” being a contraction of “can not”. It’s literally the same word, just with a different word afterwords, and yet the two get different pronunciations. There’s no way to guess at that being the case, or come up with a logical reason why. You just have to accept it.
Even different English dialects differ in how to pronounce words. There’s simply no making sense of it. Well that is how dialects work
But a can of something?
If it makes anyone feel better, I watched a coworker write “sequel” in her notes while I was talking about SQL.
That’s actually cute, sometimes I wish I were innocent to the abomination of squeal
Squirrel
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We native speakers of German intuitively pronounce an audible “g” followed by an audible “n” when reading “GNOME” and find it weird that the ordinary word “gnome” is pronounced with a silent “g” in English. The cognate in our first language is “Gnom”, pronounced with two consonants in the beginning, like the desktop environment.
It wasn’t silent for me in UK, it was G as in the ng sound in the word sing so ngnome. The back of tongue at back top of throat rather than just starting with Nome that has N with tongue at front of mouth.
Yohohoho!
I’m not a KDE, I’m not XFCE, I’m not LTQt, I’m not a Hyprland, I’m not a Cinnamon, I’m a Guh-Nome! And you have been Guh-Nomed!
borks your Linux
Today I’m learning this and now I learn GNU is supposed to be pronounced “guh-NEW”
Obviously… since their logo and spelling is the same as the animal… pronounced “noo”.
Fuck it, it’s jee en you
No you’re not, I’m in me!
(French joke).
I don’t know if I’ve had to say Gnome out loud before to another human person. I would go with the garden variety gnome myself.
For some reason I assumed it was G-NOME
