Israeli foreign ministry posts video of Thunberg’s arrest; vessels carrying about 500 activists intercepted about 75 miles off coast of war-torn territory
hamas will be inspired by the boat trip and make peace. i can feel it. you can feel it.
peace is in the air, thank you greta
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Since when is caring about our planets biggest problems and having the platform and reach to try and make a difference “moving onto the next publicity stunt”
They aren’t wrong their intention is publicity and a stunt is doing something dangerous which this would qualify for. The issue is slanting it as a negative, all protests are publicity stunts that’s like their whole purpose.
“Publicity stunt” has the connotation that you’re only doing it for attention. The commenter is basically saying she’s putting herself in harms way and bringing attention to significant causes just because she’s an attention whore and not because she actually cares about them.
They are literally doing it for attention, but yes I agree slanting it as a negative is unwise and misleading.
That’s why I added the modifier “only”.
They are only doing it for publicity. It’s quite literally getting very publicly arrested to bring light to and test the blockade in court as a matter of international law. What other purpose do you think they have?
Aw does the brave little girl make you feel a widdle inadequate? Time to promote genocide to make you feel strong and powerful like a big brave boy.
So you disagree with her stance? Or just how much attention she’s bringing to the topic? Why does it bother you?
Maybe lowest vote total I’ve seen on Lemmy? Congrats on being universally hated I guess. I never thought we’d all agree on anything but here we are. It’s beautiful.
I saw a full thread of Greta hate on Reddit. Completely unhinged. I think it was r/worldnews. I then argued with someone and they sent me a DailyMail link.
That place is fucking deranged but it’s also a carefully constructed culture where any critical comments towards Israel result in a permanent ban.
I already have them tagged as ‘zionist troll’, shitty takes are their thing I guess
More than your fat ass has done lately.
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Certainly fatter than those of the starving people you’re complaining about someone trying to help.
Great comeback. We’re all so proud of you. /s
Seems like a publicity stunt kinda thing to say, in this context.
Your brain certainly works like it’s mostly useless fat, but it’s probably just empty space in there.
Of all the comments asking you legitimate questions, this is the one you chose to reply to. Says a lot, unlike your reply.
Publicity stunt? Even if that were true, if someone does good for selfish reasons, does it matter to the ones they help? They’ve done a good thing and someone is in a better condition in the end.
Steps of activism:
- Go through court system to challenge a law, be told No because the public don’t want to change the law.
- Change public opinion by doing protest, be told Not here and you wasting people time and they cannot get to work and media doesn’t cover it.
- Change public opinion by doing a stunt, reducing effect on people day to day commute and media is forced to cover it. Be told “it is a publicity stunt and useless” <- we are moving from here.
- Challenge the system with strikes and massive protest, be told you are being angry and destroying public properties.
- Actual revolution, be told you are being a terrorist.
- Successful New system, “Thank you Greta I was supporting you since you start protesting climate change!”
- Failed revolution, “I told you so, you should have stayed home, now let me go back to my two part jobs to afford medical when I get heart attack from eating my favourite fast food.”
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Do you deny the genocide in Gaza?
People with this big brain take always crack me up… they think they’re shitting on her when they’re actually just admitting how successful she is, because her objective is literally to get publicity and attention for her cause.
Man, she’s been doing a lot of publicity stunt to help people. Thank Greta! Someone’s gotta do it and it’s helping.
Gotta love that smug self-satisfied smile on her face as she enjoys a piggyback ride from the SWAT team.
How’s that bootlicker diet? loose any weight?
Thesis elaboration pls
Not for money but fame?
(Not dogpiling, srs post)
Serious question though, how does Greta have money to travel all around the world and do whatever she wants? (Granted the things she wants to do are worldwide humanitarian efforts) but who is funding her food & shelter & clothing & yacht trips?
Man you smacked the hornets nest with this comment.
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oh when did she get arrested? I saw her get illegally kidnapped
Illegally kidnapped? As opposed to, what? Legal kidnapping?
Have you seen what’s going on in the US? Legal kidnapping is definitely a thing.
Yup. But it’s only been a few months since Trump started ruling like Kim Jung Un. I’m not ready to accept this as a new normal. How are we tolerating this?!
I suppose we’re tolerating it one person at a time by simply being in shock and not doing anything at all. Just like I’m doing right now. Laying in bed shitposting all over the internet & making no effort to affect any changes.
This is how Hitler became a genocidal maniac in plain sight while everyone watched, brainwashed, speechless 😵💫
What’s the difference?
No, Greta was kidnapped
Again.
In fairness, it is her job
Is she related to Princess Peach?
She’s a professional activist. Her job is to get improperly detained
Peach is a hobbyist
So glad those Italian and Spanish ships did…
Absolutely fuck all. Spineless.
It was all for show to appease protestors.
They said from the beginning that they were only there to rescue anyone should they end up in the ocean. Not to protect the aid boats.
The fact that they openly said that tells you all you need to know about thier governments.
bruh, just how much kiddie porn blackmail does israel have on the west…goddamn.
For once, it doesn’t have to be blackmail. The Zionists have Uncle Sam. Relations between the EU and the US are already not the strongest they’ve been. Risking the ire of a large power like that is not exactly smart diplomacy.
Would it have been the right thing to do? Absolutely.
Even on that insane wild-eyed little Italian blondie PM?
It’s stronger… it’s money.
So glad those Italian and Spanish ships did…
Being there likely saved Gretta from getting merc’d by an IDF sniper.
They’re not doing enough, but they’re also not doing nothing.
they did absolutely nothing, stopped following then when they reach the orange line, which is not gazan or Israeli territorial waters, but the heart of the Mediterranean where Israel likes to attack civilians.
They literally turned around before they reached the Israeli boats. So no, that didn’t happen
No, because they left when the flotilla entered the danger zone
I didn’t know that Israel is just casually pirating away in international waters. Weird how that’s not ok when somalians do it.
They shot and killed a 19-year-old US citizen in international waters a decade or so ago, and the international community did this 🙈🙈🙈 because regional stability or some shit
Rachel Corrie, an American activist from Olympia, Washington, was killed by an Israeli military bulldozer in the Gaza Strip in 2003
In the '60s they killed like 30 US Navy sailors and still nothing happened.
Don’t forget that time they detonated a nuclear bomb and nobody held them accountable.
They touched America’s boats???!?
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It’s because the Somalis are black
Also, Somalia is not a “necessary” element of the Christian apocalypse.
Wrong imaginary deity as well, I suspect.
Oh phack! Again? Why can’t they just let Gretta win? Its just a few truck loads of food. WTF. This world is just so evil. How can any god let any of this happen?
the IDF/benny cant have a PR campaign against him, her being so infamous internationally brings more attention to the matter. hes already in a tenous position, he wants to stay out of jail from his previous crimes.
rational people would understand that either god doesn’t exist, or that he’s evil and should not be worshipped
Reading the Bible, I don’t know how you’d come to any other conclusion but that God is a Monster.
welp: there’s your problem! right here:
Reading the Bible
I am constantly surprised by how many people worshiping the thing haven’t actually fucking read it. Or just heard some cherry picked platitudes from it in church.
Indoctrination is a hell of a drug
welp
Midwesterner detected
The Epicurian Paradox. God claims to be omnipresent, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent. But the mere existence of evil overwhelmingly disproves this claim:
- If god is able and willing to stop evil, but evil is able to hide from/fool god, god cannot be omnipresent.
- If god is able to find all evil and willing to stop it, but unable to do so, god cannot be omnipotent.
- If god is able to find evil and stop it, but unwilling to do so, god cannot be omnibenevolent.
In any of the three cases, if evil exists, god has been proven a liar in at least one of the three claims. Potentially two, or even all three. But at least one must be true if evil exists. And if at least one is true and god is a liar, why are we following him?
I also agree with this. Sure if one day something does show up, we can change our minds then. I’m sure the evil phuck would understand.
Gaza is under a siege designed to oppress and break the population so that they can’t fight back, israel forces control everything that goes in and use it as a tool to displace people.
No gods no kings
There isn’t one, silly
Exactly! But we should still be good to each other. It feels better when everyone is happy.
Why can’t they just let Gretta win?
I mean… They did, didn’t they? It was never the goal to actually get there. The goal was obviously media attention (again) and we are now commenting under a news article…
Its just a few truck loads of food.
That’s the point… Why let a few influencers enter a war zone with the risk of them getting killed when they could instead easily let a few trucks waiting in front of the boarder enter Gaza?
Risk them getting footage of the absolute devastation more like. Nothing can be allowed in, especially cameras.
Yeah, why doesn’t Israel just let the trucks waiting at the border in? I wager it is the same reason they stopped the flotilla.
Israel is terrorist country. Must be banned from every international organization.
All these powerful men with guns scared of a 22 year old girl in a sailboat.
I am massivelly curious about what the reaction of Italian dockworkers to the Italian frigate doing jack-shit nothing will be …
Strike called in Italy, protests flare over interception of Gaza aid ships
Italian unions called a general strike for Friday in solidarity with the international aid flotilla for Gaza, while protests sprang up in a number of cities late on Wednesday after reports that the ships had been intercepted by military personnel. In the southern city of Naples, demonstrators got into the main railway station and halted train traffic, while police surrounded the Termini railway station in Rome after protesters gathered close to entrances.
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In the northwestern city of Genoa, the USB announced that it intended to block the port and called on all protesters to gather at 10 p.m. (2000 GMT) at one of the main entrances. Over the past two weeks, protesting Italian dockworkers have prevented various ships from docking and loading, targeting vessels they say were involved in trade with Israel.
I don’t think they expected the crew of that ship to go Last Samurai here
its kidnapping …
Kidnapping or abduction is the unlawful abduction and confinement of a person against their will, and is a crime in many jurisdictions
Release the hostages, Israel!
You mean the thousands of Palestinian hostages including women and children too, right?
Yes, all of them
Every single Palestinian living in Gaza is basically a hostage at this point
high seas piracy, and NATO cannot keep the Mediterranean safe.
Not arrested. Kidnapped and taken hostage.
Her drowning (or dying) at sea is on my end of the world bingo.
She will have suicided with five shots in the back.
They’ll show her videos of 50,000 Israeli babies being murdered by Muslim grandmas and Greta will suddenly decide to suicide herself
I’m afraid the world will still continue even if that happens 😢
Easy for me to say, they should have kept rolling and forced the Israelis to get violent. I’m American, with a few reasons to fear these our fascists, made my choice. If it comes to it, I fight. Neither my government nor Israel has shown any quarter, no reason not to die with our boots on.
tl;dr: They’re going to kill you anyway.
It’s much more effective to do what they did than to intentionally instigate an attack. Don’t give Israel any leeway to say “Well we were justified because…”
You know the nazis want you to do nothing, right?
“No, nazis want me to attack them!”
No, no they do not. They are cowards, only acting strong when they hugely outnumber everyone around them. But they don’t outnumber us. They only do, if you sit in your house and tell people to do the same thing.
Then start assembling your army and go invade Israel.
No? Right. The flotilla didn’t have the ability to muscle past the Israeli military; grassroots endeavours never will. The only way to win is to continue drawing attention to how awful they are until the people with real firepower do something.
If that never happens, then the fascists in charge of Israel win. It sucks, but talking tough on the internet won’t change it. The Communists didn’t prevent the Nazis rise to power by brawling with them in the street either.
This can have a massive impact on European politics, especially in Italy and especially if the response from the Italian dockworkers totally fucks up the operations of Italian ports for a couple of weeks.
Also I’m curious about the reaction in Spain given that the frigate they sent did fuck all.
I agree mostly, in this case, because they have the media attention. If they didn’t then they aren’t protected by everyone watching, and also going down fighting would bring attention to the situation, which is beneficial.
If they come for you, your only obligation is to not make it easy.
If it comes to it, I fight.
Tell me you’ve never been on a sailing yacht on the open seas deciding whether you’re going to try and ram your way through some navy ships without telling me you’ve never been on a sailing yacht on the open seas deciding whether you’re going to try and ram your way through some navy ships
Would be even funnier if they sent out a ship loaded with bombs in international waters and then detonate it when the Zionists put their nose where it doesn’t belong.
A yes, terrorist attacks have such great results for Palestinians.
That’s not an attack.
It’s a defense.
It’s also not terrorism.
Good job being average.
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