The fact that we still have Field truthers in here after tonight is the most mind boggling thing of all time
All we’ve been asking for is him to show he has the ability to win a game with the ball in his hands in the final 2 minutes. He played okay despite the play-calling and had 2 bad fumbles.
But he got them in position to win the game so none of that other stuff really matters.
This. They won in spite of Fields, not because of him. He was about as good as a backup QB, servicable.
I feel like folks are grading Fields on a curve because they really want him to do well, but damn. IF 200 yards, zero TDs, 3 sacks and 2 fumbles is your idea of quality QB play, then we need to adjust expectations. If this was KC, or Buffalo, Philly or San Fran…no way is this seen as acceptable play.
He put up 12 points when his defense turned the other team over four times. Doesn’t make it okay just because the other offense was worse. Fields has to go
How are you going to set fields up as the problem when every play was him passing behind the line of scrimmage? Dude literally had barely any intermediate, ‘read the field’ kinda plays. Just screen, run, screen for every set of downs tonight
Because we watch the games and see that whenever he is given intermediate, “read the field” kinda plays he either sits in the pocket for 4 seconds before rolling out and throwing away, dumps it off to a running back for 2 yards, or rushes for 6 yards (its 3rd and 10 and Mooney is open 20 yards downfields). Then becomes more of an offensive threat for the opposition as soon as the 4th quarter hits.
Getsy needs to go, but its disingenous to act like the neutered playcalling isn’t in part influenced by the lack of faith Fields has shown should be placed in him.
or rushes for 6 yards (its 3rd and 10 and Mooney is open 20 yards downfields).
It’s ironic cause last night was arguably Fields’ best night so far at reacting to pressure and making scrambling of off cadence throws. When scrambling he consistently kept his eyes downfield and manipulated defenders into uncovering a receiver downfield instead of settling for tucking it and running it
This entire game was the vikings daring the Bears to throw it into open spaces vacated by alignments or blitz yet there was no calls made by getsy. Even then Fields consistently knew where his out was depending on the timing of the blitz.
His throwing looked more fluid while he was settled in the pocket while reacting to pressure. The few times he had happy feet, he didn’t just stand and jitter like before but instead would move the pocket and reset to throw. He was just sensing pressure markedly better imo compared to earlier this year i.e. the Bucs game.
This is the main issue of this argument. We have to be able to properly understand both Fields and Getsy are issues. It is not just one or the other here.
Yes, Getsy has a horrible game plan and it was so bad that even Buck and Aikman were laughing out loud at the repeated failure of screen after screen after screen.
But that had zero impact upon Fields fumbling twice, on back to back drives in the 4th quarter with the game on the line. And those fumbles are 100% all on him, just like many of his other previous fumbles. He uses really bad technique when he runs the ball, and he’s careless with it in situations where ball security is priority #1.
He is fortunate that the defense was balling out, or last night would have been another loss in the division due to his inability to be clutch.
Think of it this way: if Getsy was fired tomorrow, and we brought in a new OC. Does that make Fields more clutch than he is now? Does it help solve his turnover problems? Does it remediate his concerning injury history? Does it make him a QB that can win solely from the pocket if needed?
Good things to consider when you’re evaluating the team, it isn’t just one or the other
Im not comparing Fields to Hurts or Allen, but Hurts was terrible in the first half on Sunday and Allen was certainly the best player (QB) in that game but eventually Hurts got the job done and that’s all people care about. Dunno why Fields is getting hate on this one.
Not a truther, but you can throw any QB in the history of the NFL in the same situation as last night and you’d have equal stat line as Fields. Yes he fumbled twice, but would a pocket QB have survived those blitzes? Would those nonstop screen playcalling get that QB 350+ yards you all are looking for?
Yeah I’m no Fields Stan, but honestly the protection was not there, and every time they showed the camera angle where you could see what Fields saw I said to myself, “oh that’s why he didn’t throw it”. Getsy’s scheme is trash.
The fact that we still have Field truthers in here after tonight is the most mind boggling thing of all time. Do you watch the games?
Wtf is a “Field truther”?
All we’ve been asking for is him to show he has the ability to win a game with the ball in his hands in the final 2 minutes. He played okay despite the play-calling and had 2 bad fumbles.
But he got them in position to win the game so none of that other stuff really matters.
I’ve been asking for a lot more than that. Not taking the win away from him but I franchise qb simply has to be better than what we saw tonight.
This. They won in spite of Fields, not because of him. He was about as good as a backup QB, servicable.
I feel like folks are grading Fields on a curve because they really want him to do well, but damn. IF 200 yards, zero TDs, 3 sacks and 2 fumbles is your idea of quality QB play, then we need to adjust expectations. If this was KC, or Buffalo, Philly or San Fran…no way is this seen as acceptable play.
He put up 12 points when his defense turned the other team over four times. Doesn’t make it okay just because the other offense was worse. Fields has to go
How are you going to set fields up as the problem when every play was him passing behind the line of scrimmage? Dude literally had barely any intermediate, ‘read the field’ kinda plays. Just screen, run, screen for every set of downs tonight
Because we watch the games and see that whenever he is given intermediate, “read the field” kinda plays he either sits in the pocket for 4 seconds before rolling out and throwing away, dumps it off to a running back for 2 yards, or rushes for 6 yards (its 3rd and 10 and Mooney is open 20 yards downfields). Then becomes more of an offensive threat for the opposition as soon as the 4th quarter hits.
Getsy needs to go, but its disingenous to act like the neutered playcalling isn’t in part influenced by the lack of faith Fields has shown should be placed in him.
It’s ironic cause last night was arguably Fields’ best night so far at reacting to pressure and making scrambling of off cadence throws. When scrambling he consistently kept his eyes downfield and manipulated defenders into uncovering a receiver downfield instead of settling for tucking it and running it
It’s never his fault, is it?
At what point can we judge who he is? How many 4th quarter int or fumbles do we need to see? How many drive killing 15 yard sacks?
What are you seeing that everyone else isn’t?
This entire game was the vikings daring the Bears to throw it into open spaces vacated by alignments or blitz yet there was no calls made by getsy. Even then Fields consistently knew where his out was depending on the timing of the blitz.
His throwing looked more fluid while he was settled in the pocket while reacting to pressure. The few times he had happy feet, he didn’t just stand and jitter like before but instead would move the pocket and reset to throw. He was just sensing pressure markedly better imo compared to earlier this year i.e. the Bucs game.
This is the main issue of this argument. We have to be able to properly understand both Fields and Getsy are issues. It is not just one or the other here.
Yes, Getsy has a horrible game plan and it was so bad that even Buck and Aikman were laughing out loud at the repeated failure of screen after screen after screen.
But that had zero impact upon Fields fumbling twice, on back to back drives in the 4th quarter with the game on the line. And those fumbles are 100% all on him, just like many of his other previous fumbles. He uses really bad technique when he runs the ball, and he’s careless with it in situations where ball security is priority #1.
He is fortunate that the defense was balling out, or last night would have been another loss in the division due to his inability to be clutch.
Think of it this way: if Getsy was fired tomorrow, and we brought in a new OC. Does that make Fields more clutch than he is now? Does it help solve his turnover problems? Does it remediate his concerning injury history? Does it make him a QB that can win solely from the pocket if needed?
Good things to consider when you’re evaluating the team, it isn’t just one or the other
Im not comparing Fields to Hurts or Allen, but Hurts was terrible in the first half on Sunday and Allen was certainly the best player (QB) in that game but eventually Hurts got the job done and that’s all people care about. Dunno why Fields is getting hate on this one.
C’mon, you know why. 200 yards, zero TDs, 3 sacks and 2 lost fumbles in the closing minutes of the 4th quarter to lose the lead.
No. They don’t. They just read twitter and regurgitate. Zero semblance of an NFL offense today and that is on both the OC and QB.
Not a truther, but you can throw any QB in the history of the NFL in the same situation as last night and you’d have equal stat line as Fields. Yes he fumbled twice, but would a pocket QB have survived those blitzes? Would those nonstop screen playcalling get that QB 350+ yards you all are looking for?
Yeah I’m no Fields Stan, but honestly the protection was not there, and every time they showed the camera angle where you could see what Fields saw I said to myself, “oh that’s why he didn’t throw it”. Getsy’s scheme is trash.
This just isn’t true. It’s always another excuse.