I’m struggling with this one. Obviously I want this coaching staff gone, but what benefit does letting them go now bring? Would love to hear about past successes if anyone has any.
The 2021 Raiders weren’t really a bottom tier team, but they can be used as an example. Gruden resigned as the teams coach and they were sitting at 6-7 at a point that year.
Keep in mind all the Henry Ruggs stuff also happened that season. They got Rich Bisaccia as their interim and despite all the hardship they faced, they went 10-7 and made the playoffs.
Keeping the topic on the Raiders, they fired Josh McDaniels and with Antonio Pierce they are 2-1, 5-6 as a team. They can very well make the playoffs because the culture in that building has changed.
Firing Eberflus and Getsy likely won’t punch the Bears a playoff ticket right now considering we’re at 3-8, but it can help to get culture all together, which is more important. You don’t win football games with poor culture.
The Jaguars with Pederson
Without 1 Specific person lined up right this second. In this teams current structure no it doesn’t unfortunately make sense to fire. Due to lack of people to step up into OC, DC and HC spot. One of those have to wait for Black Monday. Because you would need to fire Eberflus and Getsy at the same time.
The one person I am referring to is Jim Harbaugh. Even that has complexities because gotta buy out his contract and pass through Michigan to essentially release him and Big 10 the same.
It’s not going to happen mid-season. Eberflus is now the DC too with no one else with play calling experience on his staff. There’s also not really anyone with head coaching experience either but if they did it would probably have to be Getsy or Hightower and that doesn’t sound any better than Flus. This season is what it is now.
I don’t understand this argument. Who’s gonna coach? Idk anyone coach on staff right now? Some bloke off the street? Anyone to get rid of eberflus and getsy. Hell Jeff flipping Saturday held the reigns of Indy for a few weeks and it clearly helped that organization. They even got rid of Flus too!
I know the Panthers fired Rhule and I believe some other guys and Panthers made a good run.
More often than not, firing coaches will definitely improve a team, but nothing crazy as the team is still bad. But, reversing probable losses with wins, is pretty difficult, so, even just an extra 2 wins is still a big feat
No. The only ones screaming to not let flus lose out the season are just emotional midgets who get so wrapped up in a team that doesn’t give a shit about them
The Raiders 2021. They weren’t great at the start, Gruden resigned and then ST coach Rich Bisaccia became interim HC and led them to a 7-5 record making the playoffs. So yes there has been success.
Thats be like firing Flus and Getsy after Broncos game and the 15th straight loss. Should have done it then and let the ST coach take over.
Not really. The only advantage would be if they wanted to start interviewing coaches internally (Bears don’t have a candidate), coaches who aren’t employed, or are in college. Even if you wanted to do those things it doesn’t make much sense until season is over since you have to wait so long to talk to playoff team coaches. Outside of that it’s just to give fans some instant gratification.
Browns went 5-3 after getting rid of Hue Jackson who was 3-36-1. Didn’t do much for the Browns long term though. I don’t think getting rid of Flus now does much, and expect that he’s likely gone right after the season if the Bears are moving on from him.
I mean, they beat the Steelers 2 years later to end their playoff win drought.
Then they ran baker out of town to pick up a rapist and are wasting a super bowl caliber defense.
It very much did good in the long term.
Getting rid of the coaches lets the players know that losing is unacceptable and there will be consequences for it. Keeping the staff allows that losing culture to stay. Which i believe is 1 of our biggest issues.
It’s part of having a culture that doesn’t accept mediocrity and losing games that your team has the ability to win over and over.
exactly. at least show the fanbase that losing like this (and that broncos game) is unnaceptable. and after being 6-22 as a HC, that we have seen more than enough.
The only long-term benefit to mid-season coach firing is if you know who you want to replace them with AND can hire them mid-season to get a head start on installing their new system. It’s rare you can hire a quality replacement mid-season, usually it’s interim/temporary.
Firing coaches and replacing with interim coaches could either boost wins that season or lead to more losses. But that’s for one season. If it’s bad enough that you want to fire a coach, don’t you want to max draft capital by losing remaining games vs possibly winning meaningless games with players a new coach may get rid of later anyway?
Keep in mind every new coach will say they need at least 1-2 years to install their system and bring in players who work in their system. So replacing a coach is accepting it may be 2 years before things start “working”.
I don’t think they should be fired mid season because I think we will make a run to the playoffs I want them fired midseason because they are terrible at their job and if I was as bad my my job as they were I wouldn’t get another 2 months.
I was wondering the same thing. And where would we get the replacement when all the good candidates are busy coaching or coordinating right now? Is there a currently unemployed great former coach looking to get back into it?
I don’t know if it will help net more wins this season but it sure as hell will help make fans less angry when we watch the remaining games, which is a win in my book.
The bigger thing is showing the players you care.
Flus is going out every week and NEVER taking any blame or accountability. Keeping him around is a way to lose players, effects resigning or new signings, morale, etc.