The strings mentioned are worrying. The developer verification requires an internet access - what if there’s no internet or the connection is spotty? Does that mean you can’t install the APK without Uncle Google having the internet first?
Android already scares you away from installing APKs.
A modern Android device does not simply let you install an APK without going through a lotta mental gymnastics. On a Xiaomi device with HyperOS, you have to turn the permission on for it and sit there for ten seconds to read their warnings before you can manually proceed. Each time you install something, there’s a chance Google Play will pop up to tell you the app does not support a modern Android version, and it will require your unlock or fingerprint to even continue. Not to mention some apps literally tell you Google Play is unsure of their security and offers you to send it so what I assume is their automated systems could give the APK file a look.
If all these scare tactics didn’t stop you, there’s nothing more Google or the manufacturers could do without stripping even more of what made Android great in the first place.
Look up the word “Enshittification” in a dictionary and you’ll see the android logo right next to it
You mean installing? How Google is going to handle restricting us from installing apps on our phone? Thats what it is. Sideloading doesn’t fucking exist.
Stop complaining, just use a different mobile OS.
… oh, shit!
See y’all on !linuxphones@lemmy.ca
Thank you. I gave that community a subscribe because I want to use a Linux phone at some point in the future.
The big thing I have to make sure of is accessibility as I am a low vision user who requires the use of screen magnification at the very minimum and a screen reader is preferred for text such as articles and websites.
A Linux phone won’t help with the problem side loading stopping problem.
Last time I used side loading was on a driving trip in Italy, I wanted the ZTA app so I could see where I wasn’t able to drive and plan routes that avoided ZTAs. A Linux phone wouldn’t have helped as no one would publish such an app for Linux unless the user population was in the tens of percentage
ZTAs are the no cars allowed areas, usually the middle of towns
Id argue linux phones being used will fix the problem. People not publishing an app for linux isn’t because it’s impossible it’s because nobody is using it.
Waydroid let’s you use Android apps on linux, and Jolla (I think thats the right company) has their own proprietary Android compatibility layer. Not to say the experience is perfect, I’d say its closer to how WINE was 10-15 years ago. But it wouldve been do-able, albeit probably with a bit of headache.
Waydroid works great on my steam deck
+1
I’ve heard people call it sideloading for actual PCs.
Like, the fuck?
If your computer came shipped in windows S mode it’s kinda apt.
“Actual” PCs.
They are actual pcs
Your not-so personal walled garden is a personal computer?
I have no clue what you’re trying to say.
PC = Personal Computer
Thanks
Very happy with GrapheneOS.
GrapheneOS is a nice reprieve from the sea of endless enshittification news flowing forth from Big Tech these days.
While it last, Google is disabling apks and you think they won’t lock bootloaders?
Well the next gen graphene os release will be on their own devices. They’re working with an OEM now.
Allegedly. But they are also looking at a Qualcomm chipset too, allegedly. Qualcomm is a US military contractor.
Which is why I’m monitoring !linuxphones@lemmy.ca for updates and good targets to daily drive for work purposes. We can’t trust Google anymore.
Nice find! Didn’t know a sub like that was on here.
There are other phone companies.
Graphene is working with a manufacturer to build a device for them.
Also, Graphene isn’t the only game in town. Lineage is fine, yes, you can’t re-lock the bootloader on most devices, but frankly that risk is overstated for the average person. For the people who need that kind of security, if they’re that big of a target then the actors after them will have state-level capability. So it’s a deterrent for less-capable adversaries.
Also you can build a LineageOS image that let’s you re-lock the bootloader if you really want that functionality.
It looks like a real hassle but it is possible.
Got a link to that?
Yes, but it’s even more of a hassle than I remembered and offers basically no benefit, it’s really not worth it.
It’s a quite ironic it’s only available for Google’s phones.
e/os is fine too.
Few years back I got a Chromebook just to put GalliumOS on it. Google’s hardware honestly has a decent track record for allowing open source operating systems.
Okay you got me with this one. Excepting one category of Apple products, you would need to go back about half a century to find an example of a major hardware manufacturer that is worse at “allowing” open source operating systems.
Just switched and I’m liking it…just need to import my address book with out Google play
Check out Davx5, that’s what I used to pull contacts and calendar
Which repository does that app.live on?
I got it from f-droid, but you could pull it from github as well
Is the ui the same as Pixel?
Yeah. The biggest issues I’ve had with it are:
Google Wallet does not load (I use Passes or Catima to download tickets) and tap to pay does not work - Google Pay still works, just not through the app.
Some financial apps don’t work. CapitalOne doesn’t open, but I only need to login once a month to pay my credit card so I just do it on my computer.
My company’s Microsoft Intune setup didn’t work, but they recently restricted it to iPhone only so that’s not relevant anymore.
Check too, to see if any of the tickets you use can just be presented as a QR code or e-mail. Requiring apps for simple things like that is so stupid, in general.
I cannot for the life of me get Android Auto to work with it.
They don’t support RCS which is a deal breaker for me currently
I’m very interested, but losing tap to pay could be a deal breaker. Also, Dexcom app can be very picky. But if Google makes side loading too difficult all bets are off.
I got Capital One to work on my GOS phone by turning on the exploit protection compatibility mode for the app in system settings
Yep, it’s the same stock UI and design language. Most of the modifications are under the hood and more user control over apps, permissions, etc
“sideloading”
See the same nonsense in the PC world with people talking about their “anticheat” when in what they really mean is “rootkit”
Exactly. Stop using sideloading. The correct term is “installing”.
Google wants to prevent users from installing apps on their phones.
“For your security”
If it was about user security, they would allow all users to have root level access to their phone.
That’s the old Apple standby.
the biggest problem hasn’t yet emerged, let’s say Orange turd will use his power to force Goolag to restrict access to the Goolag account for any country or entity for any of his moronic reason.
Bigger would be leveraging Android System SafetyCore or iOS mediaanalysisd to stalk-spy on the contents of everyone’s phones on-demand for the State. The software is already there, and on both platforms have deep entitlements…
This is honestly the biggest issue with using American platforms, they are fundamentally unreliable (not to mention criminally corrupt).
Already happened with the ICC, in our country we are trying to avoid the US financial system. The central bank is developing a QR payment system. Currently, we have agreements to use this system with several countries in Asia.
And no matter how good the QR payment system is, it still relies heavily on the Goolag ecosystem. Most QR payment applications will not work with microG.
