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IT people hate computers.
IT people hate computers.
IT people hate users. IT people hate other IT people. We’re just a surly lot.
You just made an enemy for life!
You IT people sure are a contentious bunch.
I’ve had the privilege of working with users with actual computer training. Old ladies who started working on terminals in the 70s and 80s. They were awesome, because they actually understood what they were doing. They could give me an accurate description of what they were doing when shit went wrong. They had real concerns and realistic requests for improvement. And they never blamed the computer when they encountered something they didn’t understand. They’re all dead or retired now.
Todays computer illiterate workforce is doomed to be incompetent because they don’t understand how their main tool works. Nobody bothered to train them.
The complicated thing here is there are so many layers of abstraction to make things easier to use and understand that if you didn’t age with the tech, it’s really hard to fully understand. That’s everything. I see Angular and React developers who don’t understand CSS.
My last position, we had classes that set sizes for everything in multiples of 4 pixels. So size-1 is 4 pixels, size-2 is 8 pixels, etc. And everything was sized with those classes. Which means if you ever wanted to resize anything, you have to go to every element and change the class instead of you know, having input controls have distinct classes.
People are layering on abstraction without understanding why and throwing away all the benefits, time to invent another abstraction layer! I had my tech lead argue with me that this was a better system because “standards”. I’m going to assume the standard was poorly understood because I can’t imagine a multi-billion dollar company hires idiots to set standards.
I got started learning transistors and Boolean algebra and programming an 8-bit cpu in college. Had computers for a few years before that. It’s surprising how many conditionals I see that can be simplified by Boolean algebra.
I don’t actually hate computers, and I try to give IT workers some grace because I’m not always proud of the work I do when I have to finish 3 months of work in two weeks. But I’ve worked with a lot of folks who aren’t curious or looking to learn and improve, and I have to wonder why they ever got into IT in the first place.
For me the worst part of IT is the god damned management. Any possible productivity gains from agile are undercut at every turn by management who has to have a concrete promise of a delivery date before they even define the ask.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. Started my long weekend early and starting a new job next week, so I have a lot of pent up rants from my last company.
We’re all standing on the shoulders of giants, but there are so many layers of giants that it’s hard to see the ground.
I’m going to assume the standard was poorly understood because I can’t imagine a multi-billion dollar company hires idiots to set standards.
Ahahahahahahaha! Oh man, you got a good laugh out of me this morning 🤣
I mean, there’s idiots and there’s idiots, you know? Yeah those classes should never have existed and maybe that’s evidence enough of idiocy, but there is an abundance of folks smarter than me. Surely they could hire one of them…
nepo. babies. (i put my commwnt in the wrong spot)
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Thing is, back in those days computers were deterministic.
A certain action caused a certain reaction, and always the same reaction (given the same context).
Anyone could learn that, as long as they bothered to read the screen (a surprisingly rare talent, to be fair).
Now, at least on windows, it’s anyone’s guess what random mayhem a certain action might cause, or where the interface to perform that action has gone after the last update, supposing it still exists and the system survived the update.
No one can learn that. And anyone foolish enough to try will certainly be driven insane.
Todays computer illiterate workforce is doomed to be incompetent because they don’t understand how their main tool works. Nobody bothered to train them.
There also so many things restricting the usage of the tool. Every week my scanner tells me it has a new software update and I cannot install a simple update without admin access, so I have to call help desk and have them remote into my computer so they can click the “ok” botton.
Everything is so walled off there’s no reason to learn how any of it works because you have no access. When the security bios update (forget what it was called) fucked everyone’s computers last year I found a fix online and could have easily went to several locations and got them up and running, but no one on site has the access to boot into safe mode and instead we all just sat on hold with help desk for 2 days waiting for IT to do the thing I already knew how to do.
Are you talking about the Crowdstrike incident?
yes
It seems to run on some form of electricity.
SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH!
true, but we also hate computers
We hate ones setup by other people or used by other users. Our own network is a glorious shrine to the one true faith.
Can’t argue with that… until something goes wrong and I hate it (really just mad at myself)
“Dammit, what idiot set this up this way?” <checks logs> <you were the last login>
My laptop windows 11? No problem. Anyone elses windows? Fucking burn it.
IT people hate people then? Checks out to me actually
BTKAC error
Correction: IT people hate printers.
Correction: printers hate people.
As a non-IT person, fuck HP in particular.
PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean?
Fuck printers
Nom one invented a good printer still
I have read this ten times now, and I still can’t figure out what it is supposed to mean…
Printers are known in IT to be a utter pain in the ass. Most brands are also using a lot of proprietary stuff and it limits interoperability. Drivers for example.
Well known example is about ink cartridges. HP added identification chips on them, so if you want to use an other brand, not HP, to fill your printer, you can’t because if no chip is detected despite a cartridge being inserted, the machine will tell you it is not genuine.
Another example with Rycoh. I don’t know if their printers still use this method, so take it as an example of capitalist greed more than a current situation. Laser printers are using a sealed container to process waste created during printing. Rycoh had placed a led detector inside to know when it was full and trigger an alert, stopping the machine and request for a change. Good idea in theory but in practice the detector was placed very oddly or on purpose near or in front of dust intake. So it was bathed very quickly in electrostatic dust and thus triggered the alarm very quickly, even if your container was not fully filled. The only way to solve this was to shake your waste storage, hoping it would clean the led enough to keep going for a few days or change it.
Lastly, I have a Brother printer, bought to a neighbor sale. The oven inside, which is in charge of heating the ink, had a failure. It had melted. For the price, it was a deal. I only needed to buy a new part, unplug it, replace and I had a laser printer with colours. Well, Brother had lightly soldered pins linking the connector to PCB. When I unplugged it, soldering came with it. I contacted a repair store near me telling me they don’t do it and I should ask for a repair to a certified Brother technician. Which is overpriced. I also can’t open it fully as it is placed to be impossible to repair without disassembling half of the machine.
No printer is the same, some brands are better than others. Some are well accepted on Linux with CUPS, some other not. But so far, not one brand impressed me well enough by their design to keep it open, easily fixable and long lasting.
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FUCK PRINTERS
*ZIP*
IT people hate other people using a computer
I once had to watch a co-worker scroll to the bottom of a list using the little arrow buttons on the end of the scrollbar. Clicking, not holding.
That’s what my hell would be like. Doing IT support without being able to wrench the mouse out of their hands.
I hate my computer as well. That’s why I have to modify it to something completely different before I am able to use it for basic text editing.
I AM TALKING TO YOU EMACS PUT YOUR BACKUPS SOMEWHERE ELSE BY DEFAULT ALREADY I USE GIT
I’m an IT person and I like computers, as long as they’ve never been turned on and they stay that way.
Many IT people love computers. They hate computers that other people use.
This absolutely applies to me. I’m so sick of computers and software and security and subscriptions and vendors. I just want my own animal sanctuary with chickens and otters and baby goats god dammit!
CS people hate the printer
…and a lot of them hate the end-user, too. Why must we involve people in the whole computer thing? Isn’t an abacus and a box of crayons enough?
Bold of you to assume the end user can handle crayons
I work in a print shop and i also hate the printer.
Fuck you Xante. I hate you so much
PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean??
No idea, but we treat them all the same. 230vAC to the USB port.
Try this and the result may shock you!
Doctors hate it!
500years of printing and this is the best we got… Smh
HP printers in particular.
Weirdly, i don’t hate HP printers (at least, the FutureSmart ones). Xerox can fuck right off with all those restarts just to change fucking settings though
People who have worked with printers know that HP is bad but Xerox is worse.
It’s a matter of Consumer vs Corporate
In the consumer space, HP is the worst. In the corporate world, Xerox is the worst (iirc Xerox doesn’t even make consumer grade printers)
Xerox is a bad copy of themselves from decades prior.
CSIT but yeah. I work in a company with people with masters in CS from Ivy League schools and they don’t understand the first thing about how hardware or their OS works. Common misconception…which, in and of itself, is sad as hell because one of the course requirements (at least when I was working on my CS degree) was Operating System Concepts & Design.
Well that is accurate…
Photo editors hate:
I need to sit down and actually watch Red Dwarf sometime. Like I did once watch the first few episodes when I was a teenager but I was way too young to fully appreciate it
You’re in for a treat, Red Dwarf is great. I loved it as a kid. The newer series they made we’re very decent too.
RED DWAAAAAAAAAAAAARF!!!
Best live action show ever.
Enhance! Just keep enhancing!
Some of this is absurd, but I feel like a lot of it is tongue-in-cheek stuff or just “let’s see how far we can push things into ridiculousness before your grandma notices that something’s off”.
And anyone in a field related to studying living creatures in nature hate pesticides/herbicides. Because pesticides harm everything that eats the thing that eats the thing that eats the thing that eats the pesticide.
Same thing with lead shot accumulating in large birds.
Wait, so the lead shots imbed in the animals that eat the lead shot large birds? And again for the animals that eat the animals that eat the lead shot large birds?
If an animal gets shot with lead, survives and runs away, there is now a wounded animal or an animal carcass containing lead somewhere in the wild.
If it is wounded or freshly dead a carnivore will eat it and accumulate lead. That may be large carnivore or a smaller carnivore that later gets eaten by a bigger one. Birds tend to have stronger stomach acid that most mammals, allowing them to dissolve the lead better.
Vultures having it the worst as they will eat any carcass and have the strongest acid.Is that… me?
Ornithologists hate cats.
Simple, common bird appreciators too
Don’t forget reptile and insect appreciators, we also hate cats
Not to forget a lot of cats, who also hate cats
Cats or people who allow their cats to be outdoors?
Yeah, I reread my comment and it can be interpreted either way, but it is definitely the second one.
There are also cats that wouldn’t even catch a cold, but the issue is mostly with either stray cats or those that are allowed out.
Me too
Firemen hate pedophiles
Teachers hate pedophiles
Doctors hate pedophiles
Lawyers hate pedophiles
Liberals hate pedophiles
Conservatives hate pedophiles
Independents hate pedophiles
Where’s the fucking list Donny? Give us the list you fat orange fuck. We know you’re on it, and so do you. How did you think this was going to pan-out, dumbass?
Software devs hate users
Software devs also hate UX/UI Designers.
And Product Owners.
And Scrum Masters.
And Software Architects.
And Security/Compliance Managers.
And QA Testers.
And worst of all… Software devs.Damned software devs, they ruined software!
Software devs sure are a contentious bunch
You’ve just made an enemy for life!
Software devs also hate UX/UI Designers.
I would never be able to explain coherently the difference between UX and UI people. I’ve only worked for one company that even had a UX guy on staff. He was paid an insane amount of money (close to half a mil per year) and as far as I could tell did absolutely nothing except insist that certain procedures be followed rigorously. He never designed anything at all himself.
He was the only coworker I’ve ever had who ended up refusing to speak to me or even acknowledging my existence. This came about because I wrote a TV Guide-type app for Blackberry which our client loved and insisted on having added to their corporate app. The UX guy insisted that no app could be produced unless it was preceded by a formal design document, so he was forced into the situation of having to produce a design document for an app that had already been written, which completely broke his brain. Or rather, he was forced into ordering someone else to do this, since as I mentioned he never actually did anything himself.
He eventually left because he got a job offer for way more money lol. I guess I shouldn’t make fun of somebody who had the system figured out far better than me.
And themselves from a month ago…
… when they said to themselves "This little piece of code is fine, I don’t need to change it now. I’ll just refactor it later. "
Sysadmins hate computers.
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And technology. That’s why they all fantasize about living on farms
Some of us are real go-getters and realize we can bring the farm to us long before we retire! I am currently typing this on my Linux couch computer wearing lightweight clothes with literal dirt smeared on them, on a dinner break before I return to the back yard and continue today’s construction project. Sometimes being a “farmer” also means becoming a carpenter!
Granted, it works much better for the suburban homeowner than anybody living in a city and/or an apartment.
And when I refer to myself as a “farmer,” all my animals are family pets cared for as a hobby. There is 0% business plan. Well, probably negative %. When we have too many animals (usually too many fish in the pond) we give them away for free!
Count another one for the sysadmin building a homestead in the forest while also building platforms for evil corpos from home.
I also have no intent of ever turning my farm into any kind of income. But it is definitely worth all of the extra work to spend any breaks sitting outside surrounded by animals, trees, water and sky.
That does sound nice, but in writing this from my work from home location right near to the beach. But my second choice would be someplace with a lot of woods and some good star gazing.
sysadmins hate end users because end users suck.
Hear hear
Psychoanalysts hate those blotchy black & white images of my mother’s pussy giving birth to my father who is wielding a knife with my name written along the hilt. “Stop bringing these fucking drawings in here!” she yells. God forbid a man have hobbies.
😶
This was just calculatingly unhinged
You’re fascinating.
Going through your profile, I just had to upvote your comments.
Ents also hate Orcs
Who downvoted you? Saruman himself?
It legit took me longer than it should have to realize it wasn’t talking about the tree people.
Glass manufacturers hate bubbles.
A lot.
ENTs hate Q-tips?!
That doesn’t make sense to me. But, then again, you are very small.
People sticking Q-tips in their (E)ars and to a lesser extent, (N)oses and (T)hroats.
You’re absolutely correct, but op is making a joke about Ents from LotR. A cheeky little pun, if you will.
As someone whose name escaped the skipping record that your name is, I concur.
It’s a reference to this character from Catch-22. Unless this is my turn to be wooshed.
I wasn’t making any kind of reference, myself, to be whooshed by. I’ve used this name around for a little while and just wanted to agree with your statement, then noticed the partial similarity in our names and wanted to comment on that, to, as if someone were trying to say my handle but got stuck on an audio loop: “Major— major— major— major—”
HROOOM
Structural engineers: fire, water, air and earth. They are like the Anti-Avatar
Everything changed when the Structural Engineering Nation attacked.
dentists hate sugar drinks (I’m with them on this one) ophthalmologists hate screens urologists hate themselves
I thought you meant window screens for a second and was picturing some kind of weird eye injury epidemic involving enthusiastically looking out windows
It’s actually almost a thing - in Moscow State University, during world cup a decade ago, lazer show was projected right onto students dorm. Not that students didn’t protest, it’s just those who did were taken by police. Not to mention that many students had babies, and few were fans of loud noises or football for that matter. Fortunately these people were smart enough to save their eyes. Oh, good old stories from hell.
IT people hate computers
