- cross-posted to:
- news@hexbear.net
- technology@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- news@hexbear.net
- technology@lemmy.world
On Wednesday twitch changed their site rules to allow artistic nudity. The policy allowed streams to display nonsexual nudity as long as the stream is tagged, so that the stream would be hidden from the front page. Twitch rescinded the policy 2 days later.
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the gamer rage about ‘titty streamers’ has to be documented like wtf is going on with that (misogyny)
A lot of it is misogyny, especially in the case of so called titty streamers that are really just women wearing normal clothes (leggings, tops with midriff) and then being hypersexualised.
However, I also think some of it’s because in a lot of cases these people are shit at the games and not very entertaining. At the start of it I remember certain ‘titty’ youtubers were using fake gameplay. Their content is more based on sexual parasocial relationships. It doesn’t really belong in the same space as a bunch of other entertainers.
Twitch is a cam site. They can’t be mad they have cam girls
Or that cam girls score higher in the scale of what gamers brains want to see.
Twitch has a some streams that are literally a woman in body paint or pasties jumping for money. Some (not all) of the titty streamer complaints are about this, not women playing games in a swoop neck.
AFAIK the most recent rule changes don’t address this, it’s still allowed, but you can’t stream yourself drawing a naked person.
Doesn’t really fit into my point, but here’s the funniest ban during the brief window where drawn nudity was allowed: https://x.com/baalbuddy/status/1735397897242579068?s=20
So weird the moral panic that was happening from this lmao. People are way too obsessed with kids seeing nudity, every generation grew up trying to see porn, from boomer magazines to fuzzy ppv on channels you didn’t have access to to sneaking it on a laptop, I don’t see how this is effectively different lol.
Whatsmore is that there’s this pretending like the Internet isn’t one giant ecosystem. There’s literally nothing stopping kids from opening up pornhub, or if it’s blocked some other million sites to choose from, on another tab and saying they’re 18 lol. Why does it fucking matter if twitch allows some nudity on there?
Why does it fucking matter if twitch allows some nudity on there?
It does to advertisers who don’t want their product associated with that. Also, Hexbear doesn’t allow nudity / porn partly because it doesn’t fit the culture that the mod team wants to cultivate, same goes for Twitch
same goes for Twitch
nah, they also promote joining the military and beer to children. they’re just caving to weird incel nerds who wont shut up about this. it has nothing to to with any kind of moral imperative
I think they’re most likely caving to advertisers. Not g*mers.
And parents. G*mers and incels can pretend all they want that they’re mad about nudity and they’ll harass the people doing it but deep down they want their titty streams and are probably frothing at this ban. I think it’s def more advertisers and parents who walked past their kids on twitch and saw them watching some softcore.
Idk I think it’s the conservatives that control financial middlemen with veto power, like banks. not advertisers. Advertisers tend to love sexualized imagery and use it all the time.
partly because it doesn’t fit the culture that the mod team wants to cultivate, same goes for Twitch
What fucking culture ARE they trying to promote on twitch? Kinda seems like the platform is basically designed for cam porn.
As one YouTube comment I saw elegantly put it
The cam site finally became a cam site
I think hexbear does allow nudity so long as it’s properly tagged as nsfw, but not porn. I’ve definitely seen some butts on here
Someone linked a video of themselves lactating while “a red sun rises” played. That got removed but it did happen
meltybloodplayer
Whatever happened to it? Used to see a lot of posts from that account.
She was banned for that post, flew too close to the sun.
Was that the weaponized use of boobs during a struggle session that I remember happening?
melty used it/its pronouns
wtf how do I miss all the weird shit that goes on here
A lot of shit happens all the time, but screenshotting our own comments is poor form so we don’t record weird shit we do.
You had the option to let us go on not knowing this existed. Knowing it existed and is now unobtainable is the cruelest act against humanity. I think in solidarity we should all recreate this wonderful sounding art. Not to post, but to put in a locket that we keep close to our hearts.
sounding art
lactation, not sounding
lol
it’s weird to compare hexbear and twitch, different websites for different things with a vastly different budget to moderate things on. like we exist here on a nothing budget for a niche audience, while twitch is MASSIVE in comparison
i guess i think of major websites as sort of central hubs of the web, so it’s odd to cordon off it like this, similar to tumblrs banning of adult content
Porn should not be in spaces not specifically for it. It’s distracting and at times disgusting when it’s where it doesn’t belong.
yeah there should be a filter for it sure
just don’t have it. Common spaces should not be full of porn
My point is the cat is out of the bag. The Internet is a common space and it’s literally full of porn.
I’m not saying this is good, or whatever, I’m just looking at the reality of the situation
No you’re not. Porn in non-porn spaces should be cracked down on. The fact that people’s actions changed when they modified their rules show they’re at least minorly effective.
The whole concept here is I find this stuff akin to moral panic dumbassery, so I’m going to exit the conversation.
I do not believe this is something worth getting worked up about.
fair enough
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Is it artistic nudity if you titty stream if you play Bach in the background?
Yes, and everyone should do it
Is the former policy why I saw a screenshot of some greased up girl without a top on twitch?
I don’t think twitch could possibly be used for “artistic” nudity tbh. It would just become a cam porn site, which it almost is anyway.
Yes. There was a surge of streams that were testing the boundaries of the new rule. I think Twitch may have revoked the rule because they were overwhelmed by how many streams were testing the limits.
testing the limits.
yeah, testing the limits of how big of a dick and balls would fit on their drawing of a wolf-man.
get that bread while they’ll let you i guess.
Considering the history of streamers testing the limits, they must have known what would happen
Is the former policy why I saw a screenshot of some greased up girl without a top on twitch?
depending on the girl she might’ve been dressed and using a suggestive camera angle. if you saw female-presenting nipples i’m thinking of someone else.
IIRC it was framed so the image ended before any nipples so she could have been wearing some kind of top ig
The latest policy doesn’t change that. They rolled back depictions of nudity, but not any of the rules around actual people.
female presenting breasts lol topless men aOKAY then? pre op trans guys with hairy tits alright? non passing trans women?
this community concern just stinks to me that some capital G gamers are upset they can’t keep women out of gaming, it’s about ethics in video game streaming or something
i’ll never understand live entertainment outside of people’s obsession with the thrill of seeing a mistake anyway, ala Janet Jackson, give me carefully curated scripted content, or give me death
F in the chat for all the cute furry twinks and femboys drawings
Got it. If I’m gonna nude on Twitch I’ll make sure its very sexualized and in bad taste with no artistic merits.
I’m surprised it lasted 2 days tbh
Going live on stream winnie the pooh style
Stream Kingdom Hearts in authentic Donald Duck cosplay
Obviously there is an element of misogyny, but I think most of the people here complaining about the rule have not actually perused Twitch to see how things were (let alone a more thorough investigation). “Titty streamers,” though I don’t use the term, aren’t just busy women playing video games (that is fine and within policy). Hot tub streams aside, “titty streamers” are the ones who are top less whose entire stream is just them sitting their, periodically shaking their shoulders and “reacting” to “content” that takes up about 1/16 of the screen and that’s the whole stream for fucking hours. Twitch is trying to not be saturated with softcore 24/7.
It’s really just a pathetic state of affairs, though just the one a shitty site like Twitch deserves.
They’re still allowing that though as far as I know. Just can’t draw fat cocks, etc. anymore.
Oh yeah, didn’t mean to imply I was so up to date I really knew what the “artistic nudity” manifested as beyond that it was more of the softcore like the website already has.
This is what happens when there are only 6 websites or so. You shouldn’t get your softcore parasocial stuff on the same website as video game streamers. There’s gonna be some infiltration but this is why different websites exist, sometimes you get dudes streaming video games on porn sites as well, but it’s the exception until you conglomerate everything and then you gotta do weird policy choices to try to have all the cakes and eat all the cakes too.
1984 😔
This is assault.
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