A Kentucky woman Friday filed an emergency class-action lawsuit, asking a Jefferson County judge to allow her to terminate her pregnancy. It’s the first lawsuit of its kind in Kentucky since the state banned nearly all abortions in 2022 and one of the only times nationwide since before Roe v. Wade in 1973 that an adult woman has asked a court to intervene on her behalf and allow her to get an abortion.

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    Democrats had fifty freaking years to get something on the books and they did nothing. Shove it into a must pass bill. Fifty years of “it’s decided by the courts, no reason to go further” attitude.

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      Republicans will literally legalize hunting gay people for sport and the white left is still gonna find a way to make it the Dems’ fault

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        I mean, being the lesser-evil doesn’t make you good or free from criticism. Lol.

        Maybe dems should elect better reps! Then we wouldn’t be in this situation.

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              Perhaps all the appallingly egregious gerrymandering that ensures democrats can’t win in many areas should be addressed?

              Democrats could run Jesus himself and lose in many places.

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                  Definitely not. But we have to recognise which issues supersede others, and which must be fixed before it’s even physically possible to address the other things.

                  It’s like fretting over the train being on schedule before the tracks have been laid. Yes, many things need fixing and several are dire, but without the tracks, shouting at the conductor to make the train go faster is futile.

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              There’s two conflicting viewpoints here. You need as many pro choice Democrats elected as possible to codify abortion rights.

              But that doesn’t happen in just one election cycle. If you punish Democrats for not fixing it immediately, you’ll never build up the necessary numbers. And that’s exactly what happened. Democrats got a huge boost in 2008 that was enough to advance things somewhat. Voters stayed home in 2010 because they didn’t like the limited improvements, and in doing so, handed Republicans the majority and prevented anything more than the limited improvements.

              Even Roe wasn’t repealed overnight. It was a multi decade campaign. The left needs to play just as much of a long game to get what we want. There’ll be absolutely no progress if we keep getting to get one large push to the left in 2 years, versus several smaller pushes to the left over 10 years to get to the same point.

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        You must ask yourself how the Republicans are able to pass such legislation while the Dems can’t ever seem to get anything done “because the Republicans interfere with it”, even with a Democratic super majority.

        Doesn’t make much sense.

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      It was on the books! It was already decided at the Scotus level.
      Stare decisis should have applied and Scotus shouldn’t have even heard the case under precedent.

      The idea that a constitutional amendment needs to be made for something to be “on the books” is absurd.

      What happened here is Scotus broke their own rules. They ignored the 9th and the 14th and violated their own principles.

      This court is corrupt. Several justices should be impeached and removed.

      Roe was settled case law. Pretending it wasn’t is a joke.

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        I wish it was far more common knowledge that SCOTUS doesn’t just ignore the 9th amendment, they flagrantly violate it. The amendment says they a right does not need to be explicitly mentioned to be protected – which makes a lot of sense when you think back on American history, because opponents of the Constitution felt that only our enumerated rights were protected and no other freedoms. Hence, why the 9th was made.

        The actual text goes further and says that the explicit enumeration of rights in the Constitution should not be used to disparage or forbid our other rights. This is exactly what SCOTUS disobeys, because the “a right must be guaranteed by an amendment” philosophy they’ve adopted for abortion flies in the face of that.

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      Roe was “something on the books”, sunshine. Until Trump stacked the Supreme Court there wasn’t a need to put anything into law.

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        And democrats were warned time and time again to codify it into law and not just leave it as a court case.

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          Really? When? I’d love to see a source for your comment along with the majority Senate, house, and president of all Democrats who all agreed for a long enough period to actually get it passed. Please, inform me of this mass of Democrats who all believed the same thing.

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      At what point in the last 50 years did Democrats have a majority of pro-choice congresspeople with a president who wouldn’t veto such a bill? Because I’m close to 50 and I don’t remember when that was.

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          We did? Because that was passed with the help of Joe Donnelly, who was anti-abortion. And with some Republicans, who were also anti-abortion. And it only passed without the public option.

          I don’t know that it’s the best example.

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          Nope. We had exactly 60 votes, and that included moderates who shot down further left provisions of Obamacare like single payer. If not for them, we’d have gotten it.

          It’s also very noteworthy that Democrats were a lot more conservative back then – or rather, there were a lot more Manchin types in the party. I don’t think there were even 50 pro abortion Senate votes, frankly. It’s really understated how Democrats have shifted left since Obama, as a product of losing those Manchin seats and only keeping solid blue ones.