I was watching the Eagles-Bills game yesterday and Leonard Floyd looked really good, better than his 4 years here.

In fact his best season in Chicago was his rookie year, and even his best season here would be his worst season if you compare it to his 2 years on Rams and his 2 years on the Bills.

He was a first round pick, so it’s not like he was some late round talent that needed time to grow. Also, our coaching was good when he was here, we had Fangio for his entire tenure here except for his last season.

I don’t know enough about the game to explain why he wasn’t good on the Bears, but he has had some very noteworthy success since he left here and it’s been for 2 different teams.

Unfortunate to say that Paces first 3 first round picks for the Bears from 2015-17 didn’t stick at all with the team

  • moGUNZthanROSES@alien.topB
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    9 months ago

    To me he was always a bit of a project pick who played and developed well even on the Bears with his versatility being the stand out, but when it came time to pay, the single statistical category of sacks prevented the Bears from giving him a contract that would keep him around. Sucked to lose him, but almost impossible to look past the low sack totals for his position at the time.

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    9 months ago

    Great question and I am not sure.

    I vividly remember people being upset that Floyd’s sack numbers and pressures weren’t better when Mack was always playing against 2 or more guys.

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    9 months ago

    Chicago fans and media have a very big impact on hiring decisions believe it or not. We’re also not really big on giving time to guys to develop. We want our guys to perform as a top player at their position right out of college or we start calling for their heads. Such was the case with Floyd. As you see with time Floyd has developed into a good player. If you look around the league you’ll find all sorts of players that we let go, and that went on to have pretty good careers. It’s a combination of George not knowing wtf is going on and taking influence from all the wrong places mixed with years of shitty hirings and…. A shitty bunch of fans that are tired of seeing their team fight for bottom of the division year after year and screaming at the top of our lungs into get rid of good players because at the end of the day we’re idiots. And George listens cause he’s an idiot to. None of this is true I just started typing and here we are. Have a great day.

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    9 months ago

    This is a very easy answer

    In the system he played in we asked him to cover A LOT more.

    With the Rams and Bills he’s strictly been a pass rusher

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    9 months ago

    Floyd had trouble with double teams here so he was used in pass coverage more. Rams have Donald collapsing pockets so he had more opportunities to speed blitz. Idk thou he also maybe has developed

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    9 months ago

    Agree with everyone else but I also think a change of scenery and exposure to other plays helped his development. Theres a reason why we think of certain players like Drew Brees as a Saint but he actually started by the Chargers and played four years there.

    I don’t follow him enough to know but I see online he’s listed as a defensive end so he may be playing more to his fit schematically as well.

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    9 months ago

    He learned to finish. He was constantly getting pressured but didn’t get sack, so we just remembered him as mediocre for where he got drafted. He was ok.

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    9 months ago

    Could be a couple of factors, he got hosed on a couple of calls / year. His pressures didn’t translate to sacks, he was still kind of green and undersized his first couple of years here. I think he has got a little stronger and a better football IQ. Also playing along side aaron Donald and a stacked bills defense helps too.

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    9 months ago

    I think sometimes a player just becomes more savvy with experience, but it’s also scheme. I dint have a problem with Floyd when he was here. Look at Edmunds! He was great on the Bills but looks mediocre to me as ge gets outplayed by Sanborn on a regular basis.

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    9 months ago

    He was decent for what he did well, but he sucked ass against the run. A liability that teams exposed.

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    9 months ago

    Floyd was pretty good here, but really lacked the ability to finish on his own. Everywhere he has gone he has had some more support from better rushers, and his pass pressure and sack numbers kind of reflect that.

    His run stopping was fantastic as a bear throughout his time here too.

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    9 months ago

    Because Bears coaches are notoriously clueless on how to utilize their talent. They want players to fit THEIR scheme and THEIR system, time and time again we see it.

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      9 months ago

      Fangio is the exception he’s the best overall coach that we’ve had in a minute