Just a reminder to the people saying to get MHJ and figure out the qb situation later just how little an all time great, if not the greatest wide receiver ever, has on winning if you don’t have a decent quarterback. As great as MHJ might be the return he offers isn’t even a fraction to as much as if Maye or Caleb end up being great or even just good. The potential return on investment is just too much to pass up with a qb draft this highly touted.
If the Bears have a top 2 pick they aren’t even going to consider MHJ, the only chance is if the Panthers drop to 3 or later where you consider him and then a qb later with our pick.
Yea but if MHJ is anywhere close to Calvin Johnson then we’ll take our chances. Your talking about arguably the best WR in history of the game.
Chances are MHJ lives up to his promise more than the QBs.
That’s the risk. But a legit GOAT-tier WR is not more valuable than even a top 10ish QB like a Justin Herbert or Lawrence or Kirk Cousins (How did the Vikes do after the best WR in the game went down this year?). If you could project Maye or Caleb ends up as good as one of those guys, you take one of them over MHJ, especially since we already have a young WR1 locked up.
Agreed. I’m just noting the chance of QBs being busts is going to be higher.
Which is why it’s infuriating that we haven’t until very recently made an effort to draft them early and consistently. Can’t win if you don’t play.
Megatron is a top 5 WR all time but he ain’t top 3
Calvin Johnson is definitely not the greatest WR of all time. I don’t think he’s top 10.
I’d put him top 10, but I don’t see how a person could compare him with Rice.
If Megatron gets to use stickum like Jerry did then I’m taking every day of the week
lol not top 10 my brother in Payton come on
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_WR.htm
Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Larry Fitzgerald, Cris Carter, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith Sr, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown all have better resumes.
Emmitt Smith has a better resume than almost every RB that doesn’t make him the best RB. Calvin retired young because he understands life is more than football.
I’d take him over everyone on that list but Rice and Moss, and including names like Carter, Smith, Wayne and Harrison is insulting.
You think it’s just a coincidence two of those players played their whole career with Manning?
And calvin johnson had stafford who feeds the hell out of his wr1, plumping up cj’s volume stats that are still leagues behind everyone else’s.
CJ retiring early doesn’t make him better. If mahomes retired early he’d still be behind brady, even if he arguably had a higher peak. And if you really want to extrapolate to what he could have done had he stayed, then there’s a case to be made that justin Jefferson is better than CJ was because he is already ahead of where CJ was at this point in his career.
Having megatron as your #3 is like having sean mcvay as your third best coach of all time or kurt warner as your third best qb.
Emmit smith is better than barry sanders too.
lol k dude
Jerry Rice would like a word.
He said arguably. Johnson also shortened his career.
Calvin retired because he just had accumulated so many injuries to his knees, and he would continuously play through them.
Anyone who watched the lions then knew he was a different bread, even in triple coverage man would smoke them.
Yeah, but no one knows. It seems like a sure thing that MHJ will be an elite WR in the NFL, but no one truly knows. And unless Fields shows out the rest of the year, the Bears have to take a shot at a QB with a top pick.
You could say the exact same thing about any of the QBs at the top of the draft. The difference is that if we got MHJ it would likely come after we traded down in the draft which would also come with a huge haul of other assets. Having Williams or Maye on the team might be better than having fields and MHJ in a vacuum, but I really don’t think it would be better than having Fields, MHJ, likely a proven star player acquired in the trade, and whatever other picks we receive in the trade.
If the Bears make that decision, then I’ll be okay with it. But unless Fields shows more with the remaining games, they will be taking a QB. And if we hit on that QB, it could drastically turn this team around. It’s always a gamble, but the Bears haven’t taken many chances on a QB over the years. It’s why there’s always a question about the Bears QB. And right now, I just don’t see Fields taking us on a deep playoff run anytime soon. And if they trade back while getting MHJ, they will still need some luck hitting on the other picks. I’m not sold on any of the QBs coming out, but it feels like we need to take a shot on one.
The WRs taken inside the top 5 in the last 15 years were,
Chase
Davis
Cooper
Watkins
Blackmon
Green
Every one of them were thought to be long term elite WRs. So many other top 5 picks thought to be generational talents ended up being busts.
Most draft picks despite how good they were in college are not game changers.
The only reason to not take a chance on a QB is Fields is it.
Who won nothing because the team he played on didn’t have a quarterback.
You see where this is going?