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    A smoke screen for… Duhhhh… The fact he is a pedophile and a rapist and probably murdered some kid on video???

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    I mean, it would be cool to read that stuff, but pedophiles put in jail would be much cooler.

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      “Listen, so I raped and killed a few kids on video. Can’t we all just move on? It wasn’t even that many, just the odd 40 or 50 children that no one, other than their parents, would ever miss!”

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    The UFO community has been wanting Trump to and suggesting Trump would do this for years. And at least on Reddit, they can’t stand anyone pointing out that it’s all just to garner attention and support from a fringe base. And to sow distrust in government institutions. (they won’t tell you the truth, but I will etc)

    I was banned for pointing this out because it was “off topic”.

    I hope this at least brings real proper reporting and debunking to the subject. Fringe online media, and conservative mainstream media already cover this just to placate their base. And they can’t call it bullshit, or offer balanced reporting on it because they will offend the people they are trying to rope in.

    And hey, if it turns out the US really does know stuff they have tried to keep from the public, that would be cool. But after following this during the pandemic era, like many people did, I came to the conclusion that most of it is rehashed bullshit and circular reporting and grifters telling stories for attention. It’s also clear that the topic is exploited for ulterior motives by governments. Someone elsewhere in this thread listed a few concrete examples. And this looks like this will be the largest such exploitation of the topic ever.

    Also, I love how the slug for this story is just “trump” with a long string of numbers. It really represents the news cycles of our time.

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      Reddit’s entire business model is as a censorship engine. If you write a good post, topical and relevant in an appropriate sub reddit then some butt hurt Moderator will do one of 3 things… Remove it, Lock it, Ban you from participating, or all 3 usually all 3. Its not a bug its a feature.

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        I don’t like to be that broad about things. This is because I know how difficult it is to do moderation. There are so many shitheads in the world who will disrupt curated spaces. They ruin it for everyone, and that leads to needing strict policies that otherwise wouldn’t be needed in a more civil space.

        But with the r/ufos, I’m down with calling out their over moderation and terrible justification for removing many things. And in their case, it’s because they are trying to insulate themselves from the flood of attention they are getting post pandemic era from people who poke their head in, realize how much bullshit is going on in the scene, and then point it out.

        Over the past six years the sub has seen a steady increase in people who are not just there to listen to story time. And these new people are fed up with the nonsense, and they call it out. And this isn’t being a team player. People want their story time. The people in control of the sub don’t want critical opinions to outnumber those of the belivers.

        So yeah. I’m not on the side of broadly talking shit about moderators across the platform, or any platform. That’s stupid.

        You know who sounds like you do here? r/ufos people who try to post UFO grifter slop on r/politics or r/science. They sound just like you, even though they are posting trash in subs that must have strict moderation lest they become overrun with nonsense and noise. Those subs get sooo much traffic. Etc. etc. etc.

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          I don’t feel stupid, I dislike moderation unless its in a nuclear reactor, or its used to combat spam or abuse. Other than that people should be able to run with whats on their mind at any given time. I wrote what I believe to be true there is an entrenched core engaged in shaping the conversation along the lines of their own belief and if you stray or effectively engage , you receive their attention. I have largely moved on from there as in my personal experience its a ‘‘censorship engine’’ No private comments any more all content on the site is to be consumed and reviewe d for the corporate governance. I want the ability to chat with people on matters of experimental consequence or chat shit as the mood strikes. What ever Reddit was its not anymore.

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            I don’t mean to imply any sort of assessment of your intelligence or care in thinking. I’m mostly calling out over broad generalizations.

            And I understand where you are coming from on moderating speech. But I also feel that until better solutions are devised, and the ramifications of unchecked noise are well understood, that moderation on digital platforms is needed. And that digital spaces can’t just be treated as if they are not “real spaces” with boundaries circumscribed. I feel people have the right to build and maintain spaces for specific styles and structures of discourse.

            And this comes into conflict with ideas of censorship.

            Analogy: But I’m not censoring you if I exclude you from my book club meetings that you attempted to participate in at the public library. I am curating the space I have built, and the way you attempted to participate was disruptive, or incongruous with the intent of the group.

            In any case. I’m not trying to tell you you are wrong. But I do think that mega-scale platforms like Reddit and Twitter and others of that scale intrinsically have to function at a different level.

            What was once a space that people like yourself could be free to be provocative, and shit post, and push difficult ideas has become a space where there are innumerable people like you who build up what ends up being noise. Your style of discourse is probally better suited to smaller spaces. IMO.

            It’s a difficult problem. And I think you know that. And you are just arguing your side. I’d just suggest not being too overly broad, and uncharitable.

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              I on the other hand have no advice for you. I have read your manifest thoughts and find little to oppose or disagree with. I will however wish you a good weekend. Good day to you.

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      Those subreddits are exceptionally forgiving toward very bad actors in politics for ‘DisCLosUr3’.

      I’m not surprised you were banned for that, it’s a topic they don’t want the mirror held up to.

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      I kind of feel like it’s more the Epstein Files.

      We may have hit the point where war with Iran is more likely to be another distraction.

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        The War with Iran is “supposed” to distract from them crashing the economy and silver valuations to wipe a chunk of the all-devouring national debt…
        A mere convenience it might also distract from the epstein files.

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        Also definition of bigger is different depending on perspective. For someone like Trump or Thiel, losing a seat or wealth is a bigger deal than tens of thousands of people being murdered in a faraway land.

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      That’s what we already see. Is there something even worse that this is meant to be a distraction from? Eating children? Raping puppies? Some other horrible third thing?

      Just when you think he’s reached the bottom and nobody could possibly be any worse, he sinks lower. Every time. There is actually nothing redeemable about him.

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        It’s rumored Trump used his child pageant business to supply epstein with suitable victims, implying he wasn’t just a client but a full blown partner so to say.

        No idea if the files validate that but he seems to fear the files intensely.

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          “I’m not only the Child Rape Club for Men President, but I’m also a client!”

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          Its absolutely wild that nobody redacting the files blew the whistle on this shit yet.

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            It’s basically some computer bot going through the files and redacting his name and that of every other P.O.S. that pays him blackmail bucks. So, for whistle blowing that leaves probably some IT nerd who’s already had a sudden tragic event.

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        Others may call this an exaggeration, but I hold the belief that Trump and his buddies engaged in guro on Epstein Island.

        The revelation that Epstein’s customers choked children to death with their own intestines (and then fucked said intestines) would definitely set a new low.

        It’s a type of service you can’t really get from the shady brothel across the street, you know? You need a specialized provider to get something like this.

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        Well, the files contain allegations that he raped and beat children and was involved in their murders too.

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    Wow, that may distract from the Trump Files Featuring Jeffry Epstein (TFFJE) for maybe a minute

    Ok, minutes over. Hand over the UNREDACTED files!

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    Given the timing of Trump’s UFO announcement – issued as the Trump administration has mobilized a colossal military force near Iran, with an all-out war possibly imminent – journalist and author Max Blumenthal bemoaned what he suggested was Trump’s tactic to draw attention away from the potentially catastrophic consequences of a wider regional war. [Iran]

    From a tweet just below that

    CIA planning docs show when they overthrew the Guatemalan president in 1954, they plotted planting “flying saucer” stories to distract the media.

    Another declassified study shows the Air Force misled the public in the 1950s about UFOs to conceal the CIA’s spy plane testing.

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    In Mexico, the chupacabra started showing up everywhere but my backyard after somebody assassinated Luis Donaldo Colosio. The civil unrest was short lived. Just putting this out there.