glamour chickens!
Peacocks are chicken made of pea protein. They’re vegan! /s
The science checks out.
fancy poultry
In Spanish, a peacock is literally called a “royal turkey” (pavo real)
Poultry for rich snobs
What is the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent peacock meal?
Democracy manifest!
GET YOUR HAND OFF MY PENIS
Not peaCOCK?
I see you know your judo well.
there is probably a law about them being gamebirds or something.
In my state it is illegal to kill a turkey, outside of designated hunting season w/ license in designated hunting areas.
So if you go to the state park with an orange vest with a gun in November, you’re good to kill them. But if you say, beat one to death on your lawn in March, you will get written up on charges and probably face fines and jail time. Both cases, cooking and eating is irrelevant.
In my state it is illegal to kill a turkey, outside of designated hunting season w/ license in designated hunting areas.
Wild turkeys. I really doubt turkey farms are effectively outlawed in your state.
But what if it’s your domestic turkey you raised from an egg and fed all its life on your farm?
depends on the local laws. if you are a legally on a farm, maybe ti’s fine. if it’s your pet, it’s animal abuse.
if i killed and ate my dog I’d get arrested.
So people with backyard chickens aren’t allowed to eat them in your country?
No. They aren’t. You can only keep them for eggs in some places.
It’s also not a national thing. The laws are my city/town/county. Some places they are banned entirely from being kept. Others have very strict regulations about how they can be kept and what they can be used for.
Only in rural areas can you just do whatever.
“No. They aren’t. You can only keep them for eggs in some places.”
I call bullshit.
There is no U.S. state where it is illegal to kill your own chickens or where you are restricted solely to keeping them for eggs. While California has strict humane slaughter laws ( California Humane Slaughter Act) and various localities have zoning restrictions, home slaughter for personal consumption is generally legal throughout the United States, provided it is done humanely
10/10 reference. Would meme again.
If you liked “pee nut butt errr” you’ll like “pee cock” too!
kill 70B chickens a year? I sleep
kill 2 peacocks? real shit now!
Bird law is not governed by reason
deranged canada goose noises
Are there non-deranged Canada goose noises?
I like em. But I also don’t have to walk near them or where they poo, so take my opinion as you will.
Ed Bassmaster (prankster/comic from Philly) and the Attack Goose: Attack goose - Ed Bassmaster
They are governed by neither law nor reason.
And barely by the laws of physics.
I award you a birder point for saying Canada goose instead of Canadian goose ⭐️
slightly less aggressive honk
honks apologetically
You gots a problem with the gooses and you gots a problem with me.
Huh, apparently peacocks are endangered. So probably that’s why?
I honestly thought they were quite common as livestock but I guess I was wrong.
The common peacock, also called Indian peafowl (Pavo cristatus), seen in the pic above, is not endangered. Least concern in fact.
The Green peafowl (pavo muticus) is endangered, but I highly doubt the Florida man had/ate that species. Much harder to acquire—I’ve never even seen it at a zoo.
People get tigers and lions so I don’t think a peacock is much harder to acquire. Also according to Wikipedia:
The green peafowl is in demand for private and home aviculture and threatened by the pet trade, feather collectors and hunters for meat and targeted.
Lol just admit you got it wrong, why argue? You said peacocks are endangered, and they’re not. Just say oops and move on.
I can’t find any mention of the specific species of peafowl the man had. My personal guess is that it’s just a stock image of a peacock. None of the articles below mention the species, but one does have the same mugshot.
https://apnews.com/article/peacocks-killed-florida-man-arrested-e1466f377234c6bc30f3c761c09f4607
Quoting the AP article,
The 61-year-old man from Hudson, Florida, was arrested last week on a third-degree felony charge of aggravated animal cruelty, according to an affidavit from the Pasco County Sheriff’s Office.
The man told investigators that he had killed the two peacocks because his neighbor kept feeding them. He had written the neighbor a letter telling her that he would continue to kill his pet peacocks if she kept feeding them “to prove a point,” according to the affidavit, which didn’t say how many peacocks he kept.
The man “admitted to killing the bird by cutting the bird’s neck out of spite, then bleeding it out, and then later eating the bird after cooking it on a frying pan,” the affidavit said.
So it doesn’t seem so simple as him merely getting arrested for deciding to eat one of his peafowl.
Killing an endangered animal and cruelty to animals are separate statutes. So I think it’s safe to safe it’s not an endangered peafowl.
- https://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0800-0899%2F0828%2FSections%2F0828.12.html
- https://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0300-0399%2F0379%2FSections%2F0379.411.html “level four violations” are also third degree felonies. So it’s possible it wasn’t mentioned because it’s “just as bad” as the other.
I don’t care enough to pull the man’s actual court records and see if he was also charged with Intentional killing or wounding of any species designated as endangered, threatened, or of special concern.
If anyone wants to sleuth on this further, feel free.
Here’s the thing. You said “peacocks are endangered.” Is Green peafowl in the same genus? Yes. No one’s arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies peacocks, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls peacocks endangered. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing. If you’re saying “peacocks” you’re referring to the taxonomic grouping of Pavonini, which includes things from indian peafowl to mbulus to green peafowl. So your reasoning for calling a peacocks endangered is because random people “call the ornamental birds peacocks?” Let’s get mandarin ducks in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. A green peafowl is a green peafowl and a member of the pavo genus. But that’s not what you said. You said peacocks are endangered, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the pavonini tribe endangered, which means you’d call indian peacocks, congo peafowl, and other peacocks endangered, too. Which you said you don’t. It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, you know?
A peacock is a crow.
Here’s the thing… I’ll allow it.
I think you mean jackdaw
Damn, Unidan in Lemmy? Who woulda thought.
They’re all Unidan down here
They recognized a blind spot in their knowledge, did some learning, then reported back with what they learned. Then you yelled at them? It’s not like they were being combative.
Did we read different comments?
They posted a Wikipedia excerpt about a specific type of peafowl being endangered and said that people get other endangered animals so it wouldn’t be hard to get an endangered peacock.
At no point did they admit a blind spot in their knowledge. In fact they doubled down on their blind spot even though they were told the peacock in the article isn’t one of the endangered ones.
But would a pet affect this? Isn’t endangered status about wild animals?
If the animal is endangered you still get dinged even of they are you pets. The laws are written as such to prevent this and things like getting an endangered or threatened species as a “pet” and then killing them to taxidermy.
No. It doesn’t really matter if the animals are wild or in captivity.
Under the ESA, it is unlawful to “take” any endangered or threatened animal species, which is broadly defined to include harassing, harming, pursuing, hunting, shooting, wounding, or killing.
Its to discourage people from capturing wild endangered species and raising them as pets. Making something a pet is as good as killing it in the wild.
However, I don’t think they’re native to florida so I’m not sure it matters.
probably that’s why?
Nope!
He was charged with animal cruelty, probably because of the wacky letter he sent to his neighbor, and that he did it “out of spite.”
animal cruelty laws are a good thing, but this is bullshit, why are some animals allowed to have rights, while others allowed to be butchered and eaten?
I’m not vegan, but there should be a consistent framework.
Yes the charges are related to the way he slaughter the animals. Because the neighbors were taking photos of the beautiful peacocks this guy decided to brutally kill the peacocks and eat them to spite the neighbor.
Well that is what I read in a comment somewhere.
if he were to slaughter chickens that way, no one would bat an eye, bleeding them to death is the Kosher/Halal way
Dude our whole country is governed based on the feelings of right-wing men.
Every issue, every unsolvable problem, every “why the fuck do we do THAT?!” exists because right-wing men have huge feelings about things and the only cards they can play are either “violence” or “control” (which are usually the same thing.)
why are some animals allowed to have rights, while others allowed to be butchered and eaten?
The line is generally a combination of social, practical, and culinary. That is, if it’s not a companion animal, it’s not endangered, it is customarily raised as livestock and it is tasty those are all evidence it probably goes in the latter category. So chicken = food, whooping crane = not food because endangered, german shepherd = not food because companion, blue ringed octopus = not food because taste bad.
So, who’s asked whether it is “tasty” or not?
What if someone fed a really bad diet to chicken and as a result the produce was not tasty to anyone that bought it? Can the seller now get jailed for selling non-tasty chicken (or for having killed those chicken prior to selling them)? :PAlso, I never really found chicken tasty, out of the few times I tried. Once, it was, due to the marination, but then it’s the marination ingredients that are really tasty. So I guess you are better off not referring to me when deciding what is legal :P
but those are also cultural.
horses? food in France.
If only different countries had their own laws and courts.
was bringing up how arbitrary those costumes are. eating horse is legal there.
To be fair, from what I’ve seen if peacock behaviors, they’re dicks.
Animals being dicks is not a good enough reason to kill and eat them. They should also be tasty.
Is peacock tasty? I’ve never had any. Can we ask the guy in the news story?
They are quite common livestock all over the world.
And exotic to Florida, so calling them “endangered” is completely meaningless.
Yeah, I feel like every other park I’ve ever been to has had a peacock…
You haven’t lived until a peacock tries to steal your sandwich in a park
There are groups of feral peacocks where I grew up.
They are common livestock. People let them roam freely, and they’re dumb as rocks, so they’re always standing in the road.
This. There is a colony of them up the road from me. Dumb as rocks and louder than they have any right to be.
I grew up in an Italian community where peacocks and peahens were commonly raised for food - exactly like chickens are now raised by hipsters.
they are? we got a town overrun with invasive peafowl near here and we just want to kill them.
Here’s the news story about it: https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/local/pascocounty/man-kills-eats-pet-peacock-pasco-county/67-d216ccbf-d32a-462c-be3d-65c41907095e
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There’s nothing wrong with eating peafowl. People have been eating them for centuries and still do.
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While some species of peafowl are endangered, the species that people keep as pets are not.
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This guy was reportedly arrested for his slaughtering methods. I’m no butcher, but I believe the commonly accepted method of slaughter is to swiftly break the bird’s neck to ensure the death is quick. According to the news article, he cut the bird’s necks and let them bleed out which counts as animal cruelty. A person would theoretically get arrested for doing this to their pet/feeder chickens as well.
This guy was reportedly arrested for his slaughtering methods. I’m no butcher, but I believe the commonly accepted method of slaughter is to swiftly break the bird’s neck to ensure the death is quick. According to the news article, he cut the bird’s necks and let them bleed out which counts as animal cruelty. A person would theoretically get arrested for doing this to their pet/feeder chickens as well.
That’s how everyone kills chickens around here, you even have like a metal cone to keep them steady while you do it, I never had the heart to kill any animals but I’ve seen a lot of it.
Literally every single halal certified carcass was killed like this.
thats crazy, i had no idea that would be considered animal cruelty. i grew up on a farm and have only ever seen the head chopped off but out of curioity, how is severing the spinal cord with an axe more inhumane than twisting the neck? logically speaking, the blood draining out has no effect on cognition, and what if theneck doesnt snap the first time?
Honestly decapitation is more humane than a broken neck. The drop in BP is enough to cause immediate lights out, where as someone with a broken neck could very well have to suffocate to death inside their own bodies.
The blood pressure drop has a huge effect on cognition.
I think they mean the guy slit the birds neck, severing the arteries but not the spinal cord, and then let it drain, instead of fully beheading it.
Yeah, I think decapitation is fine. I think this guy just cut their carotid, and hung them up to die.
Not a great way to go, honestly.
I’m familiar with some butchering methods, but I’m no butcher. I think that the most common practices in large butcher shops involve either decapitation, or a way of instantly killing the animal. Pretty sure they use a type of bolt “gun” for bovines that basically crushes their skull.
It seems like it is brutal, but their death is so instant, it is considered to be humane.
Chickens are often slaughtered by cutting their necks in a same way but using a machine. They go through an electric shock bath right before cutting their necks. Some chickens survive the shock and flail, getting their necks half-cut by the machine before entering a hot bath.
I certainly didn’t mean to imply any methods are perfect or without the opportunity to go wrong.
Hopefully nobody got that idea from what I said.
I’ll reiterate: I’m not a butcher, so my knowledge is limited. I do, however, still eat meat despite all that I know about it.
Hanging the bird upside down, cutting its neck (specifically, the arteries that are in the neck) and letting it bleed out is standard practice. The blood drains quickly and they die within a few seconds. It sounds horrible if you haven’t seen it done but this is how many (most?) farmers do it.
I’ve seen aunties grab a chicken by the neck and just spin it around till the head comes off.
It sounds to me like the guy told the neighbor “stop feeding my birds, I’m going to slaughter them soon”, and the neighbors who had been feeding the birds without permission reported them?
Anyways. Peacocks are annoying as hell. Preposterously loud.
Peacocks are annoying as hell. Preposterously loud.
One of my neighbors have Peacocks. The rest have dogs. I’ll take Peacocks any day!
It’s kind of adorable hearing them yell at cars driving by too fast/loud.
The peacocks I’ve seen are so loud they can be heard at the top of a 25 story condo. I’ve literally seen people sell their condos because of the damn peacocks. Maybe they only have peahens?
Maybe they only have peahens?
That may be. I can’t actually see them because of a big privacy fence. But I definitely recognize the sound, my grandparents raised them.
I’ve literally seen people sell their condos because of the damn peacocks.
If it was economically feasible, I’d sell my house because of the dogs :/
that’s how I was taught how to do it.
Pretty sure halal and kosher meat requires that the animals bleed out.
I’ve seen Kosher/Halal killing of chickens, goats and cows. Cows are the worst.
Yeah, I have seen the animal bleed out once, and it is hard to watch.
A small and young lamb is all tied up laying on the ground with the carotid severed. It is clearly in fear and tries very hard to get away. That struggle lasted for a long time until it eventually is exhausted and died.
I am not sure if this is how halal and kosher meat are produced though.
Ah, so standard Halal practice, which is savage animal cruelty with a devoted PR department.
excact same with Kosher laws
It’s ok as long as enough other people share the same delusion.
Yet, If I tell them the voices in my head told me to watch the light drain from my prey’s eyes as it dies before I eat…
I think of the method this guy used as “The Sarah Palin method” because she once did a news interview while people were killing turkeys in the background that way.
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The Romans used to eat them like turkeys.
Turkeys used to eat peacocks? Well, I never.
They still do, the Romans used to.
Birds aren’t real
If it flies, it spies!
Nothing to do with endangered, dudes just a nut. Said he ate them out of spite. He’s got an impressive court history of brandishing firearms and DUI/driving suspended while DUI. https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/florida-man-eats-pet-peacocks-dispute-neighbor-feeding-them-craig-vogt-pasco-county-sheriffs-office-tampa-bay/
I heard it was a sick peacock.
Allegedlys.
Still, that’s a two man job
Damn peacockists!
… and what?
