Google accused "commercially motivated" actors of trying to clone its Gemini AI after indiscriminately scraping the web for its models.

Google accused “commercially motivated” actors of trying to clone its Gemini AI after indiscriminately scraping the web for its models.

  • WatDabney@sopuli.xyz
    177·
    2 days ago

    Google has become a colonialist project.

    First they gained access to the communsl property of the internet. Then they stole it from the original inhabitants. And now they’re trying to claim a legal right to exclusive control over the property they stole.

  • wabafee@lemmy.world
    3·
    1 day ago

    Good AI models should not be behind copyright. It should be available to everyone for those who wants to run it locally. We may not be able to run it now but we don’t know in the future. Hardware still technically catching up.

      • Big Baby Thor@sopuli.xyz
        6·
        2 days ago

        AI DRM. It’s coming. All outputs will only be available to the browsers that support it. Also, future clipboards will be tied in.

        Ctrl+V

        “I’m sorry, but you don’t have permission to output that into this application. To apply for a licence click here.”

        • tyler@programming.dev
          1·
          2 days ago

          You will never stop computers from being able to copy what is shown on the screen. Right now you can go in and just disable copy paste blocking in your browser if you really wanted. It’s just javascript.

  • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘
    18·
    2 days ago

    I’m not even going to break out my worlds smallest violin for this one. It’s just not worth it.

  • Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world
    46·
    2 days ago

    “My output is valuable, proprietary, and demands remuneration; my inputs are fair use and of negligible valuable”

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    29·
    2 days ago

    Wow, they’re seriously saying this with a straight face, huh?

    Oh hi Google, my name is Epic Games, and I see your recently trained a new ‘AI’ of yours on Fortnite.

    Let me introduce you to my friend Fromsoft, who is pretty sure you uh, copied their notes from Dark Souls as well.

    … How are all these people this fucking stupid?

    There’s no possible resolution to the paradigm of ‘I can steal everything but you can’t steal anything’ other than total chaos.

    Total chaos ain’t a good standard for a legal system trying to figure out IP law.

    This is completely ludicrous.

  • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
    36·
    2 days ago

    It’s mental. The terms and conditions of some AI music generators will make people pay for a “license” to use the output for example for commercial purposes. They themselves of course claim “fair use” and steal all the music out there to train their models. I think some companies now don’t claim ownership any more, for images and video snippets. And of course AI output isn’t copyright-able in the first place.

    The companies will occasionally use their trademarks, intellectual property or copyright against people. Of course those rules don’t apply the other way around. It’s completely fine their product draws all Disney princesses, comic and anime characters and reproduces half of Harry Potter. But beware someone names something with “Claude” in the name. Of course Google follows the same logic with this.

    And then my homepage gets hammered with their stupid AI crawlers, but I have to abide by the terms and conditions of their services…

    • Grimy@lemmy.world
      29·
      2 days ago

      Being pro-copyright is giving the keys to record companies though. They would be the only ones with a “legal” model. Udio got bought by universal not too long ago but as long as laws aren’t rewritten for the benefit of mega corps and copyright juggernauts, open source will ruin all the shenanigans they are trying to pull.

      It’s the same for all the text models. Open source is destroying openais business model. They need laws that restrict what you can train on so they can buy themselves a monopoly.