If it’s unpaid, not a chance I am getting a doctors note. Although, what kind of dystopian country doesn’t have paid sick days?
Take a guess, you’ve got three letters…
A part of my salary is determined by the number of hours i bill my customer, so a sick day could easily mean that I lose somewhere in the range of $100 - $200. And I don’t even live in the USA.
Well then the company has no proof you were actually sick, and next thing you know you have a meeting with HR and your supervisor asking about where you currently are in all your work. Unpaid is not automatically excused
I get a base month of Pto but it’s not designated as a sick day. I just use it how I want (usually for emergencies lol). But I can earn like 2 more weeks as well. Which I know isn’t great compared to a first world country but most of my friends don’t get anything.
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Unpaid sick days? Sucks to live wherever that is
Must be hell on earth to live in country that does not have paid sick days.
NZ: We’re legally entitled to 10 days paid sick leave. If you’re out for less than 3 consecutive days you can be asked for a medical certificate but your employer must pay for it. Even then I’ve never been asked for a medical cert.
this is an American problem I’m guessing
ETA: We’ve also got huge brain drain problems thanks to the 3 ring circus govt atm. So we could use a little immigration
Aussie here, paid sick leave but i’ve had employers ask for a certificate
I’ve never given them one. I’m a fucking adult you’re employing
I’m a fucking adult you’re employing
Exactly right. This isn’t elementary school. I’d hand them an obvious forgery signed “Barney Piccolo’s Mother.”
That’s hella sketch.
You are entitled to an arbitrary number of sick days here.
Where’s here if you don’t mind me asking?
Feddit.org is the German speaking instance.
I’m curious what that looks like in practice. I’ve heard about places that offer “unlimited sick leave” but really in practice that means that you’re basically scrutinized every single time you take it, and people end up too scared to use it because they don’t want to be seen as abusing the system. At least with a set amount, you’re only really looked at funny if you go over. (or if you take it all at once, but then you need a medical cert)
So if you have a cold, and just need a single day, do need to produce a medical cert? What about culture-wise, do people look at you funny in that case?
Depends on your employer. Typically you call in sick if you feel sick. If it has been more than 3 days you get a doctors note. Upto a couple of weeks at which point health insurance pays for your wage.
You can be sick for months. The only weird thing is that you still earn vacation days while sick but cannot take them as you are sick.
Ok, ye! That sounds like a better system! I mean it’s essentially the same, but our “couple of weeks” is cumulative, which is worse
In belgium we used to have 3 days of no-doctor-note sick leave for single days, but they were afraid of people taking it as an extra vacation day so it’s been reduced to 2 now.
Sick leave with note is just errr not limited afaik though the social system does take over from your employer in terms of paying you for prolonged sickness.
The thing is that it was shown that those no-doctor-note days actually reduced the amount of sick days, even when used for things other than sickness.
Because if you drank too much the day before and can’t come into work because of a hangover. You only need 1 day to recover. But if you need to get a sick note anyway, you might as well get one for an entire week.
We’re legally entitled to 10 days paid sick leave
Sorry but still not good enough. I don’t plan out when I am going to be sick in the coming year or how many days it’ll take me.
Meanwhile, I got written up for using more than 4 days in a year
At that point ACC would kick in. I think it’s up to 80% of your pre illness income, and there are probably other benefits I don’t know about
After 15 days, the government has to pay instead, so long as you can prove you are sick.
If you are un(lucky), you can basically be on permanent sick leave here.
My coworker with sick days: I don’t want to waste them, I want to go on a month vacation so I’m coming in sick and getting you all sick.
Meanwhile in countries where you aren’t beholden to your employer and health insurance, being paid when sick is just standard.
I actually did this during fucking Corona, and I still do it often, literally until they drive me away, because I’m that afraid of being accused of dodging work.
They brought it on themselves, I suppose.
I did the same. They are assholes that assume you’re lying. During Covid they refused to see you at the urgent care if you had a fever. How the hell am I gonna get a note if I can’t be seen. I’m not paying 10k for a note from the ER.
Then they get mad like why would you come in if you’re sick. BROTHER YOU MADE ME COME IN.
Unfortunately they won’t see the consequences either because everyone will get sick and keep coming in, when the owner(s) can just dip out and take a personal day.
We are a small company. Productivity absolutely dips.
It dips when you’re sick, it will dip further when half of a department is sick. It’s better to protect everybody else and take a hit for a day or two than spend weeks with people passing around an illness back and forth with reduced productivity.
I once worked at a place that offered three vacation days per year. The only catch was, to use your paid days you had to work a separate shift for each day you took off. So ultimately if you wanted to have 3 days off, the week before and the week after you might not get a day off because of the extra shifts you had to work. Just how is that taking time for yourself again?
we got 2 weeks. boss noticed a friday/monday pattern. well duh
The argentinian work law is being treated today. A “representative”* from one of the poorest provinces we have said something on the lines of “sick days are paid 50%, because the guilt shared”
Guilt? Guilt of what?
Guilt for people getting sick at work/because of work, either from co-workers who must be at work, or from kids who are around other kids that must be in school sick because their parents must be at work, or some variation on forced participation in institutions when unwell which prevents taking care of yourself and stopping chains of transmission?
Me, watching you be a little bitch while I slash the manager’s tires, put sugar in their gas tank, and [redacted], before going back home to crawl back in bed, feeling refreshed knowing that I made a positive difference today: 😊
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