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Homie applied to squid game.
Bullet dodged
Like fucking Neo.
He got his answers.
Salary: Minimum
Responsibilities: Maximum
Work culture: Toxic
And that’s why you should always ask about those things 😅
So basically every job that exists
Ask where the exit to building is. RUN!
I can get that the employer would want to dodge any salary discussion, but not even responsibilities and work culture? Does the position even say what is the job?
“The job is you do what I tell you, and you do it RIGHT NOW! UNDERSTAND?”
“Come join our ever growing family if you enjoy fast pace work environments and every day being something new to discover!”
“Everything is always on fire and we have no plans to change the systemic causes of this, but we do sometimes get drunk and cheat on our spouses with each other.”
But aren’t they’re meant to be family?
“Help me step-coworker, I got stuck while using the photocopier”
taking notes And how many sleep with you coworker functions are there every year?
At least one each quarter
#StrongerTogether
#OneFamily
#PizzaWednesday
Tipping their hand that they didn’t put at least a ballpark salary range in the listing, meaning they’re trying to fuck you.
“Pay? I don’t know, what’s the least you’ll take?”
No responsibilities in the position description usually means “literally everything is going to roll downhill to your desk whenever someone feels like not doing their work”.
Fun fact: posting a job ad without a salary range isn’t even legal in California for any business that has more than something like 10 employees.
Some jobs are “buffer hires” (look it up) some jobs are “beeing the scapegoat for the real culprit at a higher position”, either one wouldnt be really discussed in a regular interview.
when they dont want to discuss important basic things in the interview just pick your favorite one and ask if its such a position, but if you do, plz report how it went.
In my region, failure to disclose salary on the job description is illegal.
It’s a DEI law, since hard salary negotiation supposedly favours one group over another, and for us that’s a hard law to fight with a huge compensation cap.
So the employer already comes off as a sleazeball.
I’m just kind of stunned by the “summarize this email” button. It’s 3 sentences!
Yeah… I saw this on a technical blog post for developers the other day and almost bust a blood vessel
“Read with my fucking eyes”
Can they add a button “understand this for me”? I don’t feel like a summary is reducing my effort enough. /s
“get fucked”
Do people regularly get emails long enough to justify a summary button? I think I’ve seen those maybe once out every thousand emails I get.
Or is it summarizing the whole thread?
Some people do feel the need to write essays for emails.
I do, but that’s because I subscribe to hobby newsletters that tend to run long. I wouldn’t use a summary button because I want every bit of that content.
Not regularly, but sometimes I’ll come back to work after a few days off, and find one of those threads of 200 emails pinging around chaotically.
In those cases, I’m happy to let Copilot try and figure out what the hell was going on. Worst case it gives me a dogshit summary and I’m no worse off.
Cheap rage bait.
sounds professional - is the very opposite. you were lucky
This is fake.
This is fake/satire… No one is going to tell you cannot ask about responsibilities
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That is only ok if the application is for a government job.
Salary? - fixed scheme according to position and years of employment. Responsibilities? - hahaha no. Work culture? - Drink Coffee, shoot the shit, sleep at your desk, make life miserable for normal citizens.
Even if salary is based on pay grades, there’s no guarantee the grade was listed in the job posting. Just asking shouldn’t be a disqualifier. The grades aren’t necessarily based on years of service, and can have fairly large ranges.
Plus, sometimes the posting is for either a level 1 or level 2 position so you don’t necessarily know what they’ll classify you as. For instance my previous IT job I had an engineer level position, but my new job put me as level 1.
Hell, I work for a government funded institution and when we interview people salary is one of the first things discussed, because there’s no wiggle room. We’ve already duked it out with HR and that’s literally the most we can offer.
It’s better to get that out of the way if the amount is going to be a deal breaker rather than wasting everyone’s time. Although it’s pretty common for people to reject job offers because they never say it’s too low before that point.
I don’t know your government, but I once worked in such a job and its mostly not true. Fixed scheme yes, and maybe a bit less responsibilities compared to the private sector. But workload and culture was similar.
Welp, of course every country is different. Here it’s mostly: do you have an appointment to file for the form that you need in order to request an appointment at the other government agency? No? * looking around and nobody else is there* well, you need to book an appointment first. * returns to staring blankly into nothing *
It would still be ok to ask about to find that out.
You should still be able to ask what the job entails in a general sense. (Like clerical, data analytics, design, etc…) It’s usually where the give their spiel such as, “You will be helping to design and roll out a new system that helps focus our resources on what’s important; the people.”
They may be talking out of their ass, but at least you could glean at a very high level what you’ll be doing. (Otherwise a revolving door of dissatisfied hirees could open up)
That’s not fair, they skim bs emails as a responsibility
I know, I have a semi gov job :)
