I know people love fake hygiene, but gloves are disgusting af. I worked with food for a huge part of my life and washed my hands three times before I touched the first piece and throughout the day after each time I touched something. Was it good for my hands, no. Did anyone ever get sick from my food, yes if we count the spicy challenge we did with colleagues
Coincidence? I think not.
Covfefe? I think so.
Trivago? Hotelikely.
Skibidi? Terrific.
There was a term I really liked for this kind of things: “Vacationing in poverty” I think, where people with wealth ‘adventure’ being homeless or something but don’t even remotely appreciate that the people they’re pretending to be don’t have an ‘off’ switch or an easy out of their situations.
I find the whole premise despicable.
Kinda like that undercover boss show where they tried to show how great these CEOs are by throwing some money at specific employees that are struggling, ignoring that better leadership and compensation that lines up better with the value being created would improve things for all of the other struggling employees that weren’t lucky enough to be assigned to boss babysitting duty (assuming the whole thing wasn’t staged entirely).
It probably wasn’t staged sadly. Those privileged billionaires saw the struggling employees as the exception, not the rule.
I know it wasn’t because there was an episode where an employee disillusioned with life and struggling with drug addiction was fired “As a favor to him”, and it was framed as being super wholesome, even though now that guy without any financial support and no way to get help will likely relapse harder than he ever has…
wat
why
How would you even frame that as a favour?
“It gives you the chance to put your life back in order” and other empty platitudes that ignore what’s really happening.
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wat
I understand that you’re quoting. This is no criticism of your comment. I consider myself fairly adept at imitating the mental gymnastics. But here, I’m at a loss.
The rich do not think critically about the world around them. They have never had to fight for anything in their lives, all their success is just handed to them. They’ve never had to make hard decisions.
This means that they have never had to be introspective or give any thought to how their actions affect those around them.
They are simply disillusioned because their wealth puts a barrier between them and the harshness of life.
So they do not recognize suffering when they see it, and when they do they blame the victim because they know that this couldn’t happen to them, and that means it doesn’t happen to anybody worthwhile.
I would understand a boss going undercover to investigate where things are least efficient and whether their subordinates are lying about safety violations at a lower cost than getting an actual investigation.
The word “subordinates” disgusts me.
Luckily I’ve never had to work with someone who felt they were above the other members of their team.Subordinate has a lot of implications, and typically I only hear it used to talk about people working for the bad guy…
Especially since they keep doing it to prove that “Oh anyone can be a millionaire, ya just gotta not be lazy.”, and despite each of them failing when they fail to prove this, they still proceed to learn nothing form this.
If only I could show the world what rich people really think of the common man, but if thousands of films like “Joker” and “V For Vendetta” where that’s the sole point didn’t do it, then what the fuck else will?
This is lemmy, you want this one
NGL, that is how I first learned of the song, and I do love it.
Where I live McDonald’s workers don’t wear gloves. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Same here, but I don’t think the workers tend to wear diapers either.
He didn’t wash his hands either.
Neiter do McDonalds workers
Back in 2016, I didn’t understand how an extremely wealthy heir to a billion-dollar fortune (and regardless of all his business failures) could present himself as the candidate of the little people. Today, after Trump was president and - of course - only made policy changes for the rich, I understand it even less. What is this photo-op all about? Are there seriously still people who don’t understand that Trump has never represented the middle class - or even the working class? You can’t be serious, dear US citizens.
It’s super frustrating but as an example - my parents are deeply conservative and supportive of Trump, and also on the lower end of “wealth” and semi-retired. It is 100% misinformation. My Dad quotes the Fox news rhetoric like it’s facts, and regardless of me disproving most of the BS, he is completely brain washed. At this point Trump could run a live execution of his political opponents and the Trumpets would more or less shrug.
They wouldn’t just shrug. They would actively cheer it on.
Yes. Half the country thinks Trump is for the little guy and Harris is an elitist asshole.
Trump was born rich. Harris grew up middle class and a member of two minority groups. The problem is the democrats are shit at messaging. It’s why Walz calling republicans weird took off. Democrats don’t usually come up with sound bites like that.
I sincerely don’t understand how this is even possible. A lot of these people are old, do they not remember the 90’s? Trump being “Smug Rich Asshole: The Character” was his whole brand, and people loved him for it because we were still drinking that “Capitalism good” kool-aid left over from the cold war.
How is this man with a literal solid gold toilet “The Voice of the People”
This whole nonsense makes me perfectly understand how “War of the Worlds” was mistaken for a legitimate news broadcast.
Bob Altemeyer explains the phenomenon well in The Authoritarians. It’s literally how their brains are wired. The book is free here: https://theauthoritarians.org/
I’m only a chapter in, but found the section on conventionalism curious. It may explain why they take such issue with being called “weird”: If they value their perception of being “normal”, “weird” isn’t just an insult used against people you don’t like, it’s an attack on a principal personality trait.
Yup. It attacks one of their core beliefs and makes them so damn mad.
Before 2016 he was a celebrity people liked him as a no bullshit business owner like the middle class small business owners. As he was exposed to more media and has proven he was more of an idiot it personified him as someone like them. A moron who does what they want with 0 reflection or cares about other people.
I’m baffled as to how anyone other than asshole bosses saw him as anything other than another asshole boss. The Apprentice gave me a strong negative opinion of him, similarly to how Shark Tank gave me a strong negative opinion of Kevin O’Leary.
As someone who went down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole in the 00s but realized Alex Jones was full of shit by 2010, I was incredibly baffled to see the movement align behind someone who could be an avatar of everything it feared.
That said, the racism and bigotry in that movement had gone right over my head and I generally dismissed the more out there shit like lizard people or aliens being involved because it sounded stupid. I believed (and still do) that that shit is part of a real strategy to use ridiculous claims to generate noise that makes real things like MK ultra more likely to be dismissed along with them.
Went through the same thing, admittedly what got me out of it was realizing how often it came back to “And that’s why Hitler did nothing wrong!”
Which made me go “That whole “genocide is good actually” thing… doesn’t really align with all this talk of how peace and love are being threatened by the forces of darkness…”
I figured it was a few bad eggs who just somehow got the wrong message, but it kept happening
All the people telling me I was on the George Soros payroll was kinda the very last straw, because how could I be the bad guy in this “conspiracy” and being so richly rewarded for it if I was struggling this much? And who the fuck was George Soros? I still to this day barely know who the fuck that even is.
Yeah, for me it was Alex Jones presenting this idea that the world elites had a plan to depopulate the world, saying that he had a solution, but then leaving that as a cliffhanger for his next video. I was left thinking, “wait, this seems more urgent than ‘wait for my next video’, if that’s really happening, it should be a ‘we gotta stop this now’”.
And then I thought about the high production value of his videos. They were professional level, which would take a budget. Someone threatening such powerful enemies wouldn’t have a budget, they’d have problems created by those enemies (because I never ended up in that “our enemies are simultaneously strong and weak” mindset). I didn’t realize at the time how profitable his schemes were and that he could easily pay for professional-level feature-length videos, but by the time I understood that, I saw his grift for what it was.
Lol I remember being frustrated by the normies that kept dismissing it, but getting caught up in the denial shit from within sounds even more frustrating.
This reminds me of when I kinda realized Fox News was pure evil because I saw them talking about how Obama was this crazy tyrant who was plotting to destroy the nation…
And I just asked the guy on the TV “Wait, if he’s a Tyrant who doesn’t care about the Constitution hellbent on this evil, flaunting it as you say… Then why hasn’t he ordered your execution? Why are you on the number 1 rated News program talking about this in broad daylight in a high definition television that’s just sitting casually in the middle of this Hardee’s?”
And then that’s when the lady behind the counter is like “Sir, this is a Wendy’s”
and I’m like “I am a Ma’am, and this is a Hardee’s!”
Went thru the same thing in 2014
Probably belongs to a franchisee who donates heavily to the GOP and trump.
Probably comes from the beef itself (corrected by someone else, came from the onions) since it’s an outbreak on a wide scale.
McDonald’s workers where I live don’t wear gloves yet there’s no outbreak. Wearing gloves isn’t more sanitary (it increases the odds that people won’t clean their hands often enough), you still touch the gloves to put them on, if your hands are dirty the gloves are contaminated, if someone touches the gloves box with dirty hands then the surface is contaminated and cross contamination can happen every time someone takes a pair of gloves.
THANK YOU.
It’s not gross because he’s not wearing gloves, it’s gross because he probably never washes his hands after digging in his ass all day.
Get your reasons this man is disgusting straight people!
I wrote a similar comment about this exact same situation on another post but from a more healthcare oriented perspective. Specifically that unless you have open cuts / sores on your hands as a healthcare worker, clean but nonsterile gloves do not protect the patient! They are an OSHA requirement in place to protect the worker from exposure to bodily fluids and caustic cleaning chemicals. And for chemo you glove twice.
Sterile gloves, which are used to protect a patient from infection and are used for surgeries and specific types of bedside procedures like urine catheterization, are packed in sealed packages in single pairs and must be applied in a highly specific way by a trained individual, the minimum license usually being an LPN and more often an RN.
Unless that beef patty is acidic enough to burn your hands while preparing it (and if it is I shudder to think what it would do to a stomach) gloves out of a 100-count box ain’t protecting anybody from anything and at their worst are bamboozling people out of washing their damn hands.
Plus, consider how much plastic waste that comes to. I’ve seen people describe them changing gloves several times an hour to comply with food safety laws. We don’t have outbreaks of this shit because people wash their hands and don’t rely on gloves.
I saw an announcement yesterday saying it was from the onions.
Thanks for the correction!
Cross contamination is so much worse than people think it is.
Everything is pretty much contaminated all the time.
I’d still want the illusion of the workers trying to be sanitary by wearing gloves.
How about they actually are sanitary by washing their hands instead of relying on putting their dirty hands in gloves that they never clean?
Have you met people? They’re not sanitary.
They’ll be even less if they don’t feel their hands being dirty because they’re wearing gloves.
Cross contamination, ever heard about it? If you touch your gloves with contaminated hands then the gives are contraindicated, if you touch the box with contaminated hands then anyone who touch the box to get gloves are contaminating they’re gloves. The more shit you touch, the more you increase the odds of cross contamination, it’s that simple.
You don’t know what these gloves touched during manufacturing, that doesn’t scare you? They’re not sterile, says so on the box. Even if they were, the second the box gets opened sterilization goes out the window because it’s not a controlled environment and everyone is using the same box.
Gloves in the food industry are there to keep your fluids to yourself if you hurt your hands, the only other reason to use them is because of people like you who wrongly believe they’re more sanitary than just working with clean hands.
I know cross contamination very well.
I trust non-sterile gloves over supposedly “washed” hands, every day of the week.
The number of people that use the toilet without washing, or even rinsing their hands afterwards is insanely high. People are disgusting.
Simply put, I don’t trust fast food gloves to be sterile, never said I did. I just think they’re likely to be cleaner than the unwashed hands inside of them.
Yes, they’re likely cross contaminated, but by the time I’m accepting the risk of having someone else prepare my next meal, i want to reduce the harm they can do to me as much as I can.
Cross contaminated gloves are going to be less harmful than the hands that contaminated them.
And these people contaminated their gloves when putting them on.
Cross contaminated is contaminated, simple as that.
Sorry buddy but I’ve got my certification in hygiene and sanitary conditions in a kitchen environment, my girlfriend does as well, she is also trained to give the course and is a dietician trained to work in healthcare. Those gloves are there for show to reassure people like you, that’s it that’s all.
Oh, I know it’s all a show.
I know how badly they’re usually contaminated.
Let me lie to myself.
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Food service workers do not scrub down like OR personnel. They really need to wash their hands routinely and wear hairnets and not touch their privates. The whole thing of Subway employees donning a new pair of gloves for each sandwich is just theatre. Go into any professional kitchen away from public view and you will not see the cooks and chefs wearing gloves.
Conversations I’ve had the last two days show that the theater really convinced some people
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Surgeons wear sterilized gloves. Do you think those 100 gloves boxes are sterile?
How come food poisoning isn’t an issue where I live if cooks don’t wear gloves even though it’s the governmental norm? And I mean, in restaurants, in hospitals, in long term care buildings… No issues, no gloves… Weird right?
Also, did you know that healthcare workers mostly don’t wear gloves unless there’s a risk THEY will be exposed to YOUR fluids? Same reason over here we still wear gloves in professional kitchens when there’s a risk that our fluids will come in contact with the food, i.e. if we cut ourselves.
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I never said it was, I said it’s ridiculous to think that gloves that come in boxes and aren’t meant to be used in sterile environments are cleaner than properly cleaned hands.
Also, keep insulting people like that and you won’t go far in life.
confidant
Yet so wrong
This is a double-whammy PR nightmare.
Are we going to do what happened with Jack in the Box in the naughts and start associating E Coli with McDonalds? I remember hearing that FUD so much back then and now that the shoe is on the other foot, I wonder what will happen. 🤔 Not to engage in the fast food wars or anything, but also fuck McDonalds for helping this fat ass at all.
As much as I enjoy shitting on McDonald’s, I don’t think McDonald’s corporate had anything to do with this. I’m pretty sure this was a franchise.
That being said, McDonald’s may need to revisit some of the restrictions in their franchise agreements with regard to direct participation in political campaigns. A candidate visiting a location is one thing, but this restaurant directly arranged and participated in this nonsense.
As much as I enjoy shitting on McDonald’s
So you are behind the outbreak!
They basically told the franchisee that they were cool with it.
The owner of this franchise is a right-winger who has been fighting minimum wage raises and probably thinks those pencil-pushers at corporate can kiss his ass LOL.
How was the Jack in the Box thing FUD?
What is FUD?
It stands for Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.
I’ll be honest, though, I only really ever see it used in borderline cult-like environments, like cryptocurrency or Star Citizen. It’s a very weird term to use IMO
Oh I see. Like fear mongering propaganda psyop type stuff lol. Yeah I see what you mean. Thanks!
Yeah exactly, and welcome!
I just meant that it last a lot longer than the few months it was a real problem. Like, I feel like we all talked about it for years and it affected their business.
I somehow expect that won’t happen here considering how popular McD is worldwide, that’s all I mean.
Fair enough!
Gloves and hot oil do not mix well. Good way to get gloves melted to your hand.
If you get hot oil on your hand, glove or no, you’re gonna have a bad time.
For sure! I would rather have a burn than a burn with plastic/rubber in it, though.
It’s not that bad unless you get a shitload on there. It’s not even as bad as cutting your finger with a knife, I’d say.
This is all media just dog piling on Trump.
The diseases he spreads are WAY worse than e coli.
Y’all real can’t help but give Trump extra publicity on his stunt, eh
it is crazy since this was like right after saying he’d persecute his critics
Wow, someone has actually died as a result of this McDiddles E. Coli outbreak? Imagine living your whole ass life, doing regular shit, being a regular ass person, and then dying to a mcdouble. WTF. Just another reason I rarely let other people cook my food.
Hand hygiene >>>>>>>>> than gloves when it comes to food safety. Wash your hands sufficiently and frequently.
Isn’t Trump a germaphobe?
I just looked it up and apparently it’s a lie he made up when asked whether he enjoys getting peed on.
Yeah, he didn’t do that either. I read that they asked him to and he said that his hands were nice and clean already.
Love it when people handle money with a gloved hand. They didn’t understand the concept.
I mean… Correlation does not mean causation, but in this case, I’m not sure.
Damn he looks old.
He is old.
Donny, quit scratching your diaper while serving people food! its gross.
