I saw a guy on the bus doing this and I punched his lizard.
Its not their fault. The phones took away their headphone jacks.
Nobody took away their headphone jacks. It’s them who bought devices without one.
Not Apples biggest fan, but do love that so many people use their earbuds. I noticed a big shift in people using them versus blaring their music and videos on public transit.
I really wish people were more interested in open format ear buds and bone conductors. They are the perfect blend between personalized notifications, background music and being able to hear what’s going on around you as well as so much more comfortable than having your ear holes plugged up. I wear mine all day long sometimes and forget I’m even wearing them.
Got any links or recommendations?
https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/best-open-ear-earbuds-headphones
Think new Sony links are coming out.
My favorite are bose open but the price point is inflated a bit.
€240 for the Bose ones isn’t too bad. I know they’re inflated a bit but the quality is definitely top end
Sony stuff tends to be good but lacks physical buttons, really fucking annoying for accidental button pushes
Any tws with transparency functionality
https://www.soundguys.com/best-transparency-mode-earbuds-109883/
These pale in comparison to open format imo
I have bone conducting headphones, they are very bad in high nose environments, transparency mode tws is better
Yes in high noise environments, like on airplane for example, open formats can be limited. Unfortunately I don’t think open formats can be your only headphone. That being said, for my day to day life at least they are my goto 95% of the time.
I live in the center of the city so in my case open format headphones is bad, however, i always use them at work when I’m in office and open format headphones are great at low noise environments, however, transparency tws is more versatile and can be your only headphones
I swear to god, please please please do not blast your fucking music, even if it is rad like ratm, on the walking trail. No one likes it and it makes you look like an asshole and I have to glare at you instead of giving you a friendly wave.
Hiked up to a ridge today. Guy up there smoking and playing a radio. Ugh.
okay, but what if it’s a very important porn video? /s
“A plot this deep has to be heard and seen to be fully appreciated.”
Man, my brother is the worst for this. Has multiple pairs of headphones, usually at least one on his person, and STILL will blast his Instagram reel on speaker as if everyone around him wants to hear his doomscrolling and brainrot memes
You phone shouldn’t make any sound whatsoever when you’re in public period.
Nobody should even speak in public! Or breathe my air!
It can ring and give notifications, as long as they aren’t set to something obnoxious.
It becomes obnoxious no matter what it is when they’re having a text conversation with someone and it’s going off constantly
I’m pretty old but do you know the Woody Woodpecker laugh? I used to work with a girl back before smartphones that had that as her text notification. It was the whole thing which takes like five seconds so sometimes it was just that fucking sound almost non-stop. Here it is, cursed fucking creation.
That sounds like something they would do to prisoners in Guantanamo.
I can’t imagine the ptsd you have
Well they should silence it at that point because obviously they’re paying enough attention to it and expecting responses, so they should be waiting for the vibrate if not looking at it directly.
But people don’t need to have their phone silenced at all times while in public, they just need to be attentive enough to answer and silence it. I frequently don’t even feel the vibration.
For me, if I’m actually having a conversation in public, I’ll silence my phone.
Right, but they were suggesting it should be silenced at all times, by default, even for the very first notification.
Put your phone on vibrate, you’ll survive.
No, I don’t think I will.
In the before time, the long long ago, people didn’t have a portable social media machine
It’s probably obnoxious in real life but I really wanna do the ZZ Top ringtone from Bad Monkey
The worst part is that it’s just normalized enough that you can’t really call it out.
It’s normalized because it’s not a serious problem, it’s a minor, and extremely temporary annoyance the vast majority of the time.
It’s incredibly obnoxious and there’s never a good reason for it.
Headphones are dirt cheap. Use them in public. No one has ever wanted to hear your bullshit.
If someone told me to silence my phone in public they would get laughed at. And if you persist I’ll tell you to call the cops, who will then proceed to laugh at you.
Theatres, yeah, they shouldn’t even vibrate.
Edit: you’re prefences are noted and ignored. People have been loud in public since there has been public. Get over yourselves.
Please laugh at me in public
Wilco, you won’t be the first, and you won’t be the last. Even of it’s some sort of kink.
Oh it isn’t a kink kiddo.
Oh, you think this is some sort of threat? Please threaten me…
I won’t partake in your hatred and selfishness.
Presumably, for such a complaint, the cops wouldn’t even bother to come to laugh at you unless they were very very bored. This is probably true in both circumstances you described. Also, I can’t speak for others, but unless detained I wouldn’t stick around most public locations long enough for someone to complain about a notification from my phone. Even if a call is received and must be answered, it seems appropriate to accept the call and leave the immediate shared area if possible. Obviously, in such circumstances as a moving bus, quickly leaving isn’t really feasible.
However, I partially agree with the person to whom you responded. Your phone shouldn’t make any media based sound (videos, music) in public. I also mostly agree with what I think you’re saying: in most circumstances, notification sounds are inoffensive. Movies are not the only exception to this but definitely are one. Laughing in the face of someone who requests quiet in a public shared area seems rude, though, and might escalate the situation.
To elaborate, recently I went to see a dental surgeon. As I approached the waiting area, my immediate thought was to set my phone to vibrate. Once I entered, however, I realized that not only was there a TV in the space; also there was an elderly couple watching TV on their phones. Not only were they doing so, not only were they watching something different from what was on the TV, not only were they watching their media at BLARING volume, but they were also watching vastly different content. In this circumstance, notifications could be - reluctantly - forgiven, but their blasting and conflicting media made it very difficult to concentrate on filling out my paperwork.
I’m too much of a wimp to have approached them, but in that circumstance I think it would have been appropriate to ask them to silence their media and would have only required a vague awareness of the existence of others for them to have done so without prompting.
Though the cops, if they came, would likely still have just laughed.
An aside: as soon as the presumed wife left the waiting area, the likely husband shut off his media. I don’t know what that means, but wanted to mention it.
Worst thing about someone watching a reel out loud is you hear the same 15 second sound bite 30 times while they’re reading the comments.
Oh no oh no oh nononono
That’s my wife, then after like 2 minutes she tells me to watch it.
I JUST HEARD IT 23 TIMES!
or 5-second disconnected bits while they scroll
Maybe don’t walk around the store while on facetime with the volume on full blast while you’re at it.
But this argument can’t wait until I go home!!!
People need to get called out for this more.
I was thinking “I bet back in the day people would have called people out on their shit. That’s why standards were higher”. So I called some guy out on it and he was like “sorry sorry sorry. Okay” and he put his hands up.
Look cunt you obviously seem to know it’s not right if you acting like that so why you being a knobhead? Just because no one will call you out?
Edit:corrected my own shite grammar
You got what you wanted and you’re angry about it. YOU are the problem.
I can only imagine what a dick you probably are all the time. Even by your own telling in this story you sound like you were probably rude or even threatening to a stranger because they made you so mildly uncomfortable.
Not even really because you were uncomfortable, but because you are roiling mad about cell phone etiquette having declined since “back in the day”. Whatever that means.
You got what you wanted and you’re angry about it
Bend what they said more, let’s see if it breaks! They got mad at the way the person responded revealing they knew they were doing a dick, it’s quite simple
I can only imagine what a dick you probably are all the time
Judging from your comment I’m going with: because projection
Have you considered that he just forgot? People can not be fully attentive sometimes. He basically said thanks for reminding me and sorry about that. That’s ok in my book
If you forget to be considerate, you are, in fact, being inconsiderate and people have a right to be annoyed by it.
No. The person responded by trying to diffuse things:
he was like “sorry sorry sorry. Okay” and he put his hands up.
That doesn’t convey any sense of guilt, it conveys that he was trying to avoid a fight. he put his hands up. That’s how you show someone, “look, I’m not a threat, I’m not going to hurt you. you win.” It’s a strategic decision, not an admission of culpability.
He backed down and surrendered in the situation because it wasn’t worth getting into a confrontation about it. Unlike the commenter, he was able to keep this interaction in perspective.
And it’s this part that makes me think wanderer was probably threatening and rude. If wanderer made a normal, calm, polite comment/request, this is an unlikely reaction. It is likely occurring because the person on the phone thought they were in some danger.
I said “can’t you put some headphones in?” And put my hands up gestured in like “what the fuck are you doing”?
I’m not going to start a fight with a guy sitting directly behind me. That’s strategically stupid. I didn’t even stand up.
Technically I guess he put one hand up because his other was holding the phone. Which is a very, very common gesture of guilt. I literally watched a game today and one of the players made that gesture to his own teammates when he made a mistake. I doubt he was expected to get punched by them either.
And put my hands up gestured in like “what the fuck are you doing”?
Where I live we don’t have a hand gesture for that. I am curious what it entails?
So this guy was sitting there watching a video or whatever, probably not attending to his surroundings, when out of nowhere some other person is suddenly right in front of his face confronting him, waving his hands around. Since your description of the hand gesture is “what the fuck”— a pretty hostile thing to communicate to a stranger by any method— wouldn’t you say there is a possibility that it was interpreted as menacing?
Even if you do know better than to start a fight on public transit, this guy doesn’t know you. People start fights for less. He’s not reading your mind, to know you are thinking like sun tzu, and would therefor not attack from a position of weakness like the seat in front. People get stabbed on busses and trains for minor insults. Don’t you think he could have just been cautious?
Or conversely, he knew himself to be potentially violent. Maybe he was trying to hold himself back from starting a fight and thought backing down was just the best strategy to exit the situation. I’ve known people who have control to a point and they sometimes do weird things to keep themselves from that point.
I literally watched a game today and one of the players made that gesture to his own teammates when he made a mistake. I doubt he was expected to get punched by them either.
Ah. I see.
So did the team mate then respond in a manner such as
Look cunt you obviously seem to know it’s not right if you acting like that so why you being a knobhead? Just because no one will call you out?
And then carry such a grudge as to later recount it and their dissatisfaction with the person even having made the error? Or the team mates acknowledged it and everyone moved on? Even if there was more teasing afterwards, you have to understand the context is that everyone who was playing a video game made a choice to do that with each other specifically, whereas this guy did not make a choice to be in a confrontation with you. You were just happening at him. And by your telling of the story, you were so mad thinking about “the old days” BS by the time you said something there basically was nothing he could have done to make you feel better. Don’t you think there is a possibility your body language was communicating more than you are even able to describe here? Even exactly as described it sounds menacing. But don’t you think he could have somehow gotten the feeling that you were mad at him as an avatar for all the problems and degeneration of the modern times?
You were a stranger of unknown intention and capacities. This man likely wanted you to leave him alone and go away. Even if you are correct and he did feel shame at being noticed for his rudeness, felt bad for interrupting your thoughts, and intended to concede to you a moral victory, he was probably also aware at the potential threat. Which, in a video game, is a non issue. That’s one of the things about video games: they are fake.
I don’t think it’s wrong to make requests of people around you. You wanna ask people to be quiet, that’s fine. But you need to learn how to do it in a peaceable way. Think of it as modeling the behavior you want to see. You want others to be quiet, unobtrusive and considerate, then you should be quiet, unobtrusive and considerate. You can still assert your needs and desires. Sometimes you will be accommodated and other times you won’t be. If, as you say, the guy was completely apologetic because he knew what he had done was wrong, then you could have been really pleasant about it, no “wtf” hand gestures, and you would still have gotten what you wanted. You could have even said “thank you, I appreciate your consideration” and smiled and been happy about it. Would have been a totally different story to tell here in the thread. All under your control.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
You are talking like some stereotypically white knight that knows how the world works and how everyone thinks and fantasies about how things should be. Yet for all this worldly knowledge that no one ever else could possibly comprehend the world doesn’t work out for you.
Some guy was being a dick on public transport, seemingly knowingly, I call him out for that and he stopped. All good.
Love how you can know so much about a situation that you didn’t even see. That’s a real good magic trick. Maybe you should be a detective?
Where I live we don’t have a hand gesture for that. I am curious what it entails?
You put your hand up like a high 5. It is generally seen as a “I fucked up, I know, sorry” it’s pretty common it a lot of cultures. Weird you don’t know this yet you know so so much above everything else
“what the fuck”— a pretty hostile thing to communicate to a stranger by any method— wouldn’t you say there is a possibility that it was interpreted as menacing?
How is wtf hostile? Like if you seen a duck carrying a cat across the road and some guy made a wtf gesture at you, you’re going to reach for you gun?
Even if you do know better than to start a fight on public transit, this guy doesn’t know you. People start fights for less. He’s not reading your mind, to know you are thinking like sun tzu, and would therefor not attack from a position of weakness like the seat in front. People get stabbed on busses and trains for minor insults. Don’t you think he could have just been cautious?
So let’s get this right. People get attacked on busses for minor things. You think this guy is worried I might have beat him, and you think that too, because that’s what’s happened on public transport.
Well it sounds like I did this guy a favour, the next guy might have stabbed him. Everyone that gets on the bus with him wins because they don’t get pissed off and he wins because no one kills him for being a dickhead.
If him being scared prevents all this then I guess you are right. I did him a favour.
Look cunt you obviously seem to know it’s not right if you acting like that so why you being a knobhead? Just because no one will call you out?
I’m sorry I can’t read minds thinking about the situation at a different time period. But again, that’s an awfully good skill you have.
Omg you are actually talking about video games now. You’re too much.
I don’t have this problem because whenever I’m in public I have my headphones on. Even if I’m not listening to anything on them they’re still good enough to muffle every other sound blasted by others.
It’s easier to adapt myself than it is to educate everyone else I guess.
This is also a good way to ignore panhandlers and other people approaching you with unsolicited bullshit.
Ever go hiking? Skiing? Sit in a park? This is the same concept as some douche blasting shit on their Bluetooth speaker while you’re trying to exist in the moment.
Maybe it’s hard to conceive of for some, but the world shouldn’t be shielded by headphones.
I don’t disagree with the last part.
The thing is that either I shield myself whenever it’s possible so I don’t get annoyed over other people’s actions and get to live a reasonable nice day, or I let myself be annoyed by them and don’t enjoy my hiking or sitting in the park experience anyway.
Either way I don’t really encounter these people unless I’m using public transportation. If I’m on the beach then I sometimes encounter them but then it’s chill and I can just find another place.
Ever go hiking?
On a trail, where you are not subjected to anybody else’s noise for more than a second as they pass you by?
Skiing?
You’re skiing down a slope and a person is skiing next to you with a Bluetooth speaker?
Sit in a park?
Outdoors, where you can put some distance between yourself and them?
Maybe it’s hard to conceive of for some, but the world shouldn’t be shielded by headphones.
You’re right, it’s already shielded by air. The air that you can put between yourself and the other person.
The point was regardless of whatever they’re doing, you are only as subject to their poor behavior as you choose to be.
If you’re not going to do something about it (and please tell me what you would actually do about this beyond complaining on the internet), then your only other choice is mitigation, which involves just keeping headphones with you to block out other people’s noise or learn to find more peaceful spaces.
Outdoors, where you can put some distance between yourself and them?
Sure, if it’s one person. Where I used to live, the nearest park would have multiple groups engaged in loudness wars, each upping their volume in response to the others, so nobody could enjoy the park. Public spaces shouldn’t be held hostage by assholes who don’t understand how to behave in public, to the detriment of everyone else.
As far as what to do, it would be nice if the existing rules would be enforced that prohibit this behavior, but people cry racism for being told off for bringing a massive speaker to blast merengue and dembow in the park and somehow find support, rather than people asking why they’re blasting any type of music in the park to begin with.
Obnoxious dickheads gonna be obnoxious
Remember when tech companies wanted you talking to your phone for everything out loud. Hey Siri, eat a boiled dick.
