Man, oceanographers have been shouting this for decades. And let’s just throw marine biologists/marine chemists in there as well. Ocean currents are stupidly powerful, to have them stop is scary beyond comparison. The warning temperature lifting the calcium carbonate compensation depth, literally acidifying the ocean past the point of habitability for everything but jelly fish… Good bye oxygen. It was fun hanging with y’all, break out the good stuff because you aren’t handing it down to the next generation.
Man, oceanographers have been shouting this for decades. And let’s just throw marine biologists/marine chemists in there as well. Ocean currents are stupidly powerful, to have them stop is scary beyond comparison. The warning temperature lifting the calcium carbonate compensation depth, literally acidifying the ocean past the point of habitability for everything but jelly fish… Good bye oxygen. It was fun hanging with y’all, break out the good stuff because you aren’t handing it down to the next generation.
“lifting the calcium carbonate compensation depth”
Wouldn’t increased CaCO3 dissolution increase pH? I’m surely misunderstanding you — presumptively there’s less compensation allowing more CO2 / carbonic acid?
I’m out of my depth…
It’s just more climate catastrophising. CaCO3 and H2CO3 form a buffer that would minimise the effects of acidification. The idea that all fish would die is dumb. Terrestrial plants produce oxygen by photosynthesis so oxygen won’t disappear from the atmosphere.
Meanwhile, some world leaders are absolutely perplexed as to why their citizens aren’t choosing to have children.
I like how my head switched from how scary an alien invasion would be to thinking that aliens coming here and fixing this mess is our only hope at this point
It just takes a set of policy decisions. Aliens not required.
We’d literally have to halt all emissions and start massive “rewilding” projects to turn this puppy around. Remember 2020 when human industrial activity paused for a while and nature took some time to take a breath? We will need things like that but all the time. Perhaps have arbour day a monthly thing? Perhaps close all factories over the weekend? Perhaps move to 3 day weekends? Perhaps make an ordinance that 50% of each country needs to be natural untouched protected wilderness? Who knows? We need a lot of solutions NOW.
But how am I gonna get the newest iPhone within 24hrs then? Ever thought about that? Does anyone care about me?
I’m not sure. I’m worried that we’re already in the feedback loop.
I’m not sure. I’m worried that we’re already in the feedback loop.
I’m not sure. I’m worried that we’re already in the feedback loop.
Not everyone will be amicable, the capitalist boomers will still hear it in one ear and then let it exit the other ear.
Aliens/“work of God” is needed.
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We already bent it from 4C by 2100 to 3C by 2100. We can change outcomes if we work for them.
Success is not guaranteed, but one way to guarantee failure is to do nothing and sit around hoping for aliens.
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Stop buying imported Chinese crap, for starters. If you don’t, then that’s great, but almost everyone does to some extent. Some is unavoidable, but try to minimize it.
Buy quality items that are built to last. Ask yourself if you really need something or if you just want it. Spread the word to others to do the same. Tell all your friends to stop buying shit from Temu, Wish, dollar stores and other crap-merchants.
On the positive side, China is in fact growing their renewable capacity at a higher rate than anywhere else in the world, and also building nuclear plants. However the amount of power required for manufacturing to feed the world’s endless appetite for disposable crap is vast and mostly supplied by burning coal.
Okay do you start to making led’s, solar panels and electronics for an affordable price? Nice
It would be nice if we could. I do manufacture carbide tooling that is much higher quality than the import stuff, and we sell it at a fair price. Only because we have an old, paid for, well kept machine to do it, because otherwise we couldn’t compete.
But you can tell that I’m talking about disposable crap if you actually read my comment. Superballs that don’t bounce, plastic holiday decor that crumbles in UV light, erasers shaped like a kitten that just smear the pencil lead around.
China is working on it. China added more solar panels in 2023 than US did in its entire history
It’s too late
In the 2000’s alien adoption stuff and aliens in general was huge. Every week there was another american redneck that got abducted by aliens. I sometimes couldn’t sleep at night thinking about it.
Now i fucking wish aliens would abduct me.
i’m so glad i don’t have to worry about retirement
I’m saving for retirement, but I’m not expecting money to matter by the time I get to that age.
I’m shorting the US. Will be fun paying down all my debt with green toilet paper.
What branch of the military are you hoping to serve in during the Water Wars?
Suicide.
No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country…
Haha, like we will get to pick… we will be in the meat wave corps my brother
The hydration wars
It doesn’t follow that large scale drops in human population happen within the next few decades
Another 70 degree day! Perfect weather! February is the best time to start spring.
Sure, in Sicily. Not Chicago.
And then 34 tomorrow. Lol, lmao.
It was 67 in Rochester NY yesterday. We’ve had almost no snow stick to the ground the last 4 years.
It’s still pretty cold here in the PNW. 36°F yesterday morning now 45°F tonight.
Just shy of 80 here today.
Scientists, probably: our models or data are incomplete so can’t fully explain or predict this. We should investigate to refine our models
Conservatives, most likely: scientists are wrong about global warming again. Why should we listen to this?
The bible says we need to build a huge wooden ship.
Yes. Hot getting hotter is hard to understand.
It’s much easier to understand that shorter, milder winters means you can make people be even more productive. Now winter can’t slow down that road widening project.
Scientists should stop trying to predict Gods will.
Assuming you’re joking, this is why /s is sometimes required
God should stop willing a shitty world then.
So should the people who believe in Him.
That globe is amazing! i would love to have a globe like that.
Libraries do cool things.
My refrigerator does cool things too.
But is it running?
To my knowledge, refrigerators are not eligible to hold any political office.
A shame. They might do better than MAGA Republicans.
If not, make sure the refrigerant is disposed of properly. They tend to be incredibly potent greenhouse gases
Well not on Tuesdays and Thursdays, that’s when I unplug them. Then on Saturdays, I plug it in to two sockets at once for that primo cooling experience.
I used to work with ocean researchers and they are some of the most depressed, heavy drinkers I’ve ever met. A big reason I moved on from that workplace.
Imagine writing scientific papers on an ocean you already know is dead. Research which is funded by the government, the same people who allow clear cut logging inland which has decimated the salmon population, which is vital to ocean life. So you better not be too loud about that when it’s time to apply for more funding.
Clear cut logging, so our useless commonwealth friends over in the Atlantic have wood chips to burn and toilet paper to waste.
Or, the absolute molestation of our mountains so the rest of the world can buy more phones and EVs, which has destroyed said watersheds.
Can someone tell me whether sea level rises are still a concern and if so, why no one seems concerned?
When I was a kid that was the big scary climate change thing. I know it’s maybe only 50cm but that’s still problematic for lots of real estate… isn’t it?
Like just the other day I visited an expensive apartment that would’ve been maybe 50cm above sea level.
The rising of the sea is astronomically slow, so there’s a lot of denial about it. It’s already a minor (maybe moderate?) problem here on the east coast of the US. Boston, NYC, and Miami are already seeing more flooding during storms than they saw historically.
But if there’s someone who is willing to pay for a waterfront property despite the risk, then there will always be someone willing to sell it to them.
But here in Boston, we’re finally starting to see new construction projects taking future sea level rise into account: https://www.baysideupdate.com/#:~:text=By raising the Project Site,and protect the surrounding neighborhood
Regular people don’t seem concerned because of reporting bias. People that continue to live on coastlines aren’t going to be fearful of living on coastlines. Insurance companies are pulling out of Florida for this reason however. Sea level rising is still going to happen.
It remains a concern; and is proceeding at a few mm per year.
I’m seeing it affect local planning in a meaningful way where I live, and is demonstrably affecting property values in low-lying areas.
I guess part of my question was whether it’s progressing more quickly than previously anticipated given that climate change is progressing more quickly than previously anticipated.
My local council has a 100 year plan to mitigate the impact.
The problem isn’t just the level the seas rise to because of melted glaciers; it’s the increase in chaos in weather systems - storm surges like the ones blasting mansions off of cliffsides in cali, crazy flooding, more hurricanes of increased intensity, etc
It’s a concern already for low-lying atoll islands like those in the Maldives and Tuvalu. Half of Tuvalu’s capital city is expected to be flooded by 2050, but they’ve been seeing the effects for years unfortunately.
It really depends where you are though - my town is at around 100 m elevation and about 80 km inland. When I was a kid, my mum used to have nightmares about tidal waves coming over the horizon because she was so scared of sea level rise.
It only affects rich people who own coastal properties.
These same people also tend to be rich enough to own other properties, so it’s not that big of a deal.
It was a “big deal” a couple decades ago because these people had to realize they need to invest somewhere other than the coast before it’s too late.
Right now it’s too late because everyone knows coastal properties’ days are numbered.
The thing is though… bad things happening to rich people’s money usually means worse things for poor people.
It’s really naive to think that a bunch of expensive property becoming worthless is not a big deal because it only affects poor people.
Suggesting that rich people are the only ones who own low lying property is a flawed premise also. What about low-lying island nations? What about low lying inland areas? There’s plenty of communities in Australia that aren’t necessarily close to the coast but would have an altitude of less than 1 metre.
My point is that nobody really cares these days because the ruling class has already divested.
As opposed to an omen of the …
. . . past, correct. An omen of the past is always, very . . . ominous.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
From his office at the University of Miami, Brian McNoldy, an expert in hurricane formation, is tracking the latest temperature data from the North Atlantic with a mixture of concern and bewilderment.
Across the unusually warm Atlantic, in Cambridge, England, Rob Larter, a marine scientist who tracks polar ice levels, is equally perplexed.
The current El Niño weather cycle is also leading to additional heat in the Pacific Ocean and allowing more energy to be released into the atmosphere.
Recent research has suggested that as glaciers melt and more fresh water enters the Atlantic, a crucial ocean current could falter, potentially leading to drastic changes in global weather patterns, such as a rapid reduction in temperatures across Europe.
Flaco, the Eurasian eagle-owl who escaped from the Central Park Zoo and became a New York City icon, died last Friday after he flew into a building.
In Central Park on Saturday, mourners carrying flowers and binoculars wandered among some of Flaco’s favorite oak trees, searching for the right spot to pay tribute, my colleague Ed Shanahan reported.
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Lol @ the abrupt left turn to Flaco the owl.
First Harambe, now Flaco.
We’re two already horsemen deep and nobody seems to notice
Dicks out?
Dicks out for Harambe, stay flaccid for Flaco.
Came for climate doom, stayed for Flaco.
Florida can’t sink quick enough
No shit. Well, lots of shit actually. And, it’s about to hit the fan.
I never thought my desire to turn my own game off would actually be an asset, but it sure does make accepting the inevitable an easy pill.
I recommend getting counseling and engaging in activism.
How bad it gets is very much under human control still
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In whose opinion?
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I’ve had better days. I’ve had worse days.
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Is this what’s making the
frogswhales gay???Mammals tend to have fun being mammals. I’m not aware of any evidence that it is temperature-related.
