• Buelldozer
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      Very rare pro-consumer W

      Is it though? I fear that all this will do is allow WalMart to clobber them individually then take over their market share. A&K combined are already smaller than Wally World. (13% vs 22%). It would actually be more helpful to the grocery market if they forced Walmart to divest, what their doing with this is likely to end up with Walmart taking it all.

      • @JustUseMint@lemmy.world
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        I actually agree. They’re targeting the smaller fish in "big business " when they should be focusing on Walmart amazon google and the like

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          The FTC has always been harsher about monopolization via mergers versus business finding success independently. Not saying that’s the right way to handle things, but Walmart got to where they are through competing, not merging, with other businesses.

  • Plap plap 𓁑𓂸
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    Two of the major chains in my area merged a while back and they were required to close down a few of their stores to prevent having a monopoly.

    So of course they closed the stores that were under-performing, which just means they closed the ones in poor neighborhoods.

    They still owned or kept the leases to the buildings and sub-leased them out with the stipulation that any business taking them over could not carry groceries.

    Not only are the people in those areas having to drive a lot further (or spend more time on public transit), but a lot the surrounding businesses to the stores that closed down ended up going out of business themselves.

    There’s at least one nearly abandoned mini-small, shopping plaza in town due to this.

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      Wow never realized it but same. Clemens and Acme went under, then Superfresh. All those shopping centers are still empty or near barren and that was like well over a decade for those to go under

    • @Fedizen@lemmy.world
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      that seems like anti competitive behavior, I wonder if those kinds of stipulations could be made illegal. Also a commercial vacancy tax probably wouldn’t hurt.

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        They are legal. This is/was Walmart’s M.O. for anticompetitive behavior when one of their stores closed. Any competitors couldn’t lease, other businesses failed when they moved and didn’t have the traffic, and so you are left with both an unoccupied eye sore as well as a food / product desert…

        Good idea on the vacancy and potentially changing the law to prevent anti-competitive stipulations like that.

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    As an Australian who has to deal with the duopoly of our grocery stores after we let them all merge years ago, it absolutely will drive higher prices and nobody who isn’t a shareholder should want this.

    They basically “collude” to fix and raise prices here and have whole teams of people who’s job it is to monitor and extract as much money out of us as possible. They also force growers to accept shitty deals or they reject their produce due to “not meeting their quality standards” and there’s basically nowhere else for them to sell it in the quantities they need to.

    Nobody wins in grocery store mergers except the shareholders.

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        Australia is super concentrated, the duopoly own 70% of the grocery store market as well as others like 60% of the alcohol market. The rest is made up of convenience stores (mostly one company, IGA) and Aldi, the latter having single digit percent.

        You basically sell and buy groceries though these two or you don’t exist. The CEO of one of them got so cocky during a recent interview he was forced to resign over it.

        • @noobnarski@feddit.de
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          I guess we are pretty lucky over here in Germany then. We may have had some consolidation in the last few years, but there are still quite a few different grocery store companies competing.

          The big ones are Aldi, Lidl, Rewe, Edeka, Netto, Penny and Norma. Quite a few of them own other supermarket chains as well, but those arent in my list.

          Our supermarket market is so competitive that even companies like walmart failed to enter it (they also didnt do away with weird US customs, which probably didnt help).

      • @Blackmist@feddit.uk
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        I feel the UK does it fairly well. Every supermarket has its place.

        Waitrose for the middle class.

        M&S for the people who think they’re middle class.

        Asda, Morrisons and Tesco for the masses.

        Aldi and Lidl for the poor.

        Heron Foods for the poor that can’t cook.

    • @MisterFrog@lemmy.world
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      With the current extreme price gouging, seems like the perfect political cover to anti-trust the hell out of them and break them up.

      You’d know the Libs would moan and get the Murdoch media to pump out the propaganda, but I think the Australian public would be on board. The tax cut reversal went over totally fine, because I guess on average people aren’t as stupid as the Libs would like.

      (For international readers, the Liberal Party are the leaders of the conservative coalition, confusingly.

  • @Brkdncr@lemmy.world
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    Albertsons has been buying up competitors for a while.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albertsons

    Kroger has a few too:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kroger#Chains

    They turned Pavilions from a nice store to another dingy grocery. I can’t imagine this going through would be good for consumers. Many neighborhoods only have access to 2 stores at best, and I suspect most are already owned by the same parent. A merger would further turn this into a monopoly.

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      I’d love to see it but this isn’t the best comparison. The total number of stores aren’t what makes a company a monopoly, it’s the ratio of one company’s market share versus its competitors.

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        Fair point.

        Luckily, digging through OP’s article, I have found the data!

        Together, Kroger and Albertsons would control around 13% of the U.S. grocery market; Walmart controls 22%, according to J.P. Morgan analyst Ken Goldman.

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          That doesn’t matter as much as what is the local grocery shopping going to be like. I’ve never been to a Kroger (and only have been to an Albertsons via the Safeways they bought), so them controlling some percent of the market doesn’t say anything about the competitiveness of my local grocery market. Lots of people only live near a single grocery store brand, and that number would increase if those two merged.

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      Read yesterday about Wendy’s rolling out new electronic menus this year so they can enact dynamic pricing. Can’t wait until Surge pricing hits another non-negotiable like food.

      Burn all these oligarchs down.

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        Yhgtbsm. Charge people more during a lunch rush because it’s convenient to do so. For fast food. Fuck them.

        That’s stripping the “supply” out of “supply and demand” and just making it “demand pricing.”

        They demand you pay more.

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        People are talking about combining the names. If Albertson’s and Safeway didn’t, I suspect it will be the same with Kroger.

        • @Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Best to keep the names separate to create the illusion of choice.

          This has been silently happening in every industry for years.

            • @Rodeo@lemmy.ca
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              Started shopping for sunglasses about a week ago and learned about Luxottica. Turns out there’s a grand total of three brands of sunglasses that are viable for me to buy. Made in the USA but still only cost the same $300 that made in china Oakleys and ray bans cost.

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                I just ordered a pair of 20 dollar polarized sunglassess off amazon. Fuck the name brands and the ridiculous prices.

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                  I’d still rather support American jobs and the American economy. I’m willing to pay for that and the quality is usually worth it IMO. If I can give my money to company that hasn’t outsourced jobs, I will.

                  I’m actually in Canada but there’s only two sunglasses manufacturers here and they’re both over priced high fashion stuff.

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          Safe Albert. Name writes itself. Gives people false sense of security even.

    • @ceenote@lemmy.world
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      And where being poorly suited for wielding that kind of power responsibly makes you more likely to be one of those fucking dudes.

  • SeaJ
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    I hope the lawsuit is successful. This would make them the only viable store in many areas.

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          If it was owned by the public, then the people could do the best they can with what they have instead of the least people are willing to accept while charging the most they’re willing to pay.

          It’s why all the useful idiots are against nationalization of corporations. It removes private owners who exist just to siphon profits.

      • Buelldozer
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        Not even close. Albertsons and Kroger combined wouldn’t have as much marketshare as WalMart. (13% vs 22%).

        • comador
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          Depends on where you live. It would be a 100% monopoly on groceries in various parts of the US where they reside. A monopoly doesn’t need to be national for it to be one.

  • @ansiz@lemmy.world
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    It’s interesting living in a partof the USA where I couldn’t even tell you where a Kroger or Albertsons is. Maybe they don’t tend to overlap with Food Lion’s?