• Plopp@lemmy.world
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    So, instead of getting the ability to search for videos properly, with negative search terms, user defined video length spans, exact dates, sort by reverse date order etc… we get ambient mode and color search? Can someone please, for the sake of humanity and my sanity, erase this company and its parent from the planet.

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      Seriously, there was a time when Google was lauded for all kinds of awesome innovation, and joked about that you needed a PhD to even be a janitor there.

      Look at them now. They can’t even do basic search functionality anymore, and are so misguided that they put out color filters for video.

      I 100% agree they need to just stop existing at this point.

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        Arent there like Ralph from the Simpsons originating jokes about how like, this crayon tastes like yellow?

        Congrats YouTube, thank you so much.

        I can now enjoy green flavored content, fuck having a working suggestion algorithm that actually recommends interesting content, I guess I can use YouTube for what it seems to be intended for these days, as an ambient noise and color generator for my monitor and room while i actually do something else.

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      The fact that Google started as a search company and yet search in their own apps sucks is boggling.

      In YouTube Music, when you’re building a tuner to create a station, you can’t search at all. Instead, you get an endless scroll off bands and have to find the one you want that way. The order is random.

      Like … Pandora let you do the same thing with search back in the 00’s

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        The fact that Google started as a search company and yet search in their own apps sucks is boggling.

        It’s not boggling; it’s very simple: they discovered that having shitty search apparently makes them more money than having good search.

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          Bingo!

          Don’t Be Evil.

          It was obvious they would enshittify, they literally told us they would.

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          I feel like maybe the term “search” when applied to digital services should be regulated. What Google et al do isn’t search, it’s recommendations. Recommendations can be useful, but they sure as hell don’t replace search. Someone call the EU.

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            if they won’t regulate what ‘news’ or ‘organic’ or ‘private’ means then good luck with ‘search’. waiting for the government to get wise and save us, still?

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        You made me search the internet to rid me of my confusion! I’m all vermilion now!

    • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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      I absolutely hate the ambient mode. I mean, I get it, it’s kind of my problem if I am trying to use ancient desktop, but it’s also pretty unnecessary.

      Trying to view YouTube videos on many school computers became a pain in the ass. Some are so laggy that I can’t even get to disable the ambient mode without which it would still be somewhat usable. (But hey, piped.video works.)
      Hell, even my HP 255 G7 (a fairly average office laptop with Ryzen 3 3200U) struggles with it. It gets laggy and turns into hairdryer.

      Secondly, it’s distracting.

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      This sounds like they made a cheap feature from data they already had, but didn’t stop to think why anyone would ever want it.

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      Yes it’s super weird that porn sites had that functionality for over a decade and one of the world’s largest tech companies still can’t implement those.

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    With all the absurd turns YouTube and Google have taken, I’ve been looking at this for five minutes trying to figure out if this is a shitpost

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    Sounds like a new and inventive way for them to push sponsored content on you but make it seem like you had some choice in the matter

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      You’ve searched for Red! Here are some funny, relaxing and interesting videos from Coca-Cola, Adobe and Target!

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      I’m sure they’ll also share their information with “content creators” so they can all start using the most popular colors and the site can become even more generic and samey

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    There are millions of youtube videos uploaded every single day. Why do I always get the exact same stuff in my recommendations? And why does YouTube shorts keep playing the same clips over and over again? Even the ones I disliked.

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        Oh man I needed this! Not the stupid extensions that play it in a normal YouTube window or something. I just wanna remove that crappy short form video stuff altogether.

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          The UI for shorts is terrible. You can’t double click to fast forward, as that likes the video. Why are they inconsistent with their own player?

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      You should never dislike on YouTube. They just view it as engagement and will give it you more. To actually get rid of content that you don’t like, you need to use “not interested” in the context menu.

      This drove me crazy for a long time.

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      Because those videos give Google the best ad revenue. Who cares what the users watch all long as Google gets rich along the way.

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      What? You don’t go to YT and think “hmm i wonder what color I’m in the mood for today”?

      Weirdo.

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    Color is so stupid. Who the fuck cares what color the video is. Couldve used this to actual good like pick three minor subjects from the video and ask me if im interested in more of those. That would be awesome. And I know they have that data.

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      Black History Month

      Separating videos based off of color.

      Never change Google.

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      Even easier, pick video lengths.

      <1min, 1-10min, 10-30min, 30-60min, 60min+.

      I’d use that all the time.

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        They used to have that as a filter. Although for a long while you could pick short (<4 mins) or long (>20 mins) but not medium length videos.

        This, too, was a sign they had no fucking idea what they were doing.

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      This reminds of how Xiaomi introduced sorting by colours of the app icon in their launcher. But that was different and I believe actually helped getting around

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    The recommendation algo is so bad they are testing it against a random bullshit generator…

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      I fucking hate the algorithm.

      I can watch 20 fucking hours of content about a subject, and it wont suggest anything similar.

      but I accidentally click a link someone posts to a crazy right wing video, I get nothing but right wing violence and brainwashing fear mongering videos for over a week that I can barely break the fuck out of with hyper specific searches.

      Which is the same problem facebook has, in that the algorithm favors right wing extremism and shoves people heavily down that path, and only through very significant and concerted effort can you break out of it.

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            And if I happen to click on those videos only to confirm it’s not for me they will be like “omg, he’s crazy about this video! Let’s recommend 10 different variations of this video from now on!”

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    Has anyone else noticed that if a video says ‘like and subscribe’ the subscribe button does a little animation to draw your eye to it?

    Really wish there was a better way to host videos that doesn’t require a multibillion dollar company’s backing

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      Really wish there was a better way to host videos that doesn’t require a multibillion dollar company’s backing

      Archive.org. For now. But people keep uploading full copyrighted movies to it and there appears to be no content moderation, so at some point there will be a massive lawsuit and it will be shut down. And that will be an incredibly sad day because it is currently also a source of useful public domain footage like the Prelinger Archives. Without the Internet Archive, we will not have a non-commercial archive of public domain footage.

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      That was youtube, before it was sold.

      There will never be another one again. Storage, Bandwidth, Server, etc etc costs would be too astronomical for anyone but another multi-billion dollar company to spin up a competitor.

      There are small scale niche efforts, Like for guntubers, or that stupid members only floatplane thing, but none of them will ever compete with youtube, because they don’t have the scale or reach. and never will.

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    Holy crap, the amount of hate in here, and no actual description of what it does. It’s essentially your normal home feed, but only the videos with thumbnails of the selected color. It’s also way over at the right of the home feed filters, so it isn’t like it’s being shoved down your throats.

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          I care because it shows YouTube is more interested in wasting resources on dumb, pointless features rather than fixing various problems that have been plaguing content creators over the years

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            The resources used to implement this aren’t the same as the ones that would be used to address some of the other issues, as the ones I know of are more social/legal ones.

            I bet this was mostly done by a single coder who showed it off and management thought it was a fun thing so added it to the main site.

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            At this point I feel like it’s intentional, and either way, am not surprised. Unlike a lot of other commentors here, I don’t see the point in wasting mental power on worrying about it.

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      Yea, seems like a fun and quirky feature, but unfortunately I don’t think there’s anything big tech companies can do at this point to turn things around with public opinion given how utterly egregious their other sins have been (and continue to be).

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        Fun quirky features are things you make when you have a good product.

        These types of features added to things with genuine ongoing problems will always piss off users.

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    Probably another method of gathering user data for their AI training models.

    I no longer think that big media corporations are doing stupid things for no reason because they’re dumb

    I think they do stupid things because they want another way to train their dumb AI and we’re all too dumb, mindless and powerless to say or do anything about it all.

    It’s crazy when you think about it … humanity is degrading itself from all corners just to raise an idiot AI child that will be just as messed up as we are.

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    Can I get a feed that’s not insisting that I watch the same small selection of garbage for months? Thanks.

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      Or the videos you watched years ago and still remember. There is more youtube video than my lifetime why the hell would i watch the same shit over and over again?

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      The “not interested” button is your hero. Really, just hit “not interested” on a few of the offending genre and it should get right out of there.

      If you also remove them from your history - even better

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      Disable your viewing history. I don’t go on YouTube deep dives like I used to, but at least my suggested videos aren’t all related to some previous dive I’ve done anymore.

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    This is a data collection strategy, not a feature

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      Remember the old days, when your aunt would send you an invite to a facebook game that would predict which celebrity you’re most like based on unrelated and harmless pieces of data, like: (1) Your favorite color, (2) Your first pet’s name, (3) The school you went to, (4) Your mother’s maiden name (5) Last four digits of your social security number (6) Birthdate

      This sounds similarly comical if it was intended for data collection.

      EDIT: I’ve reconsidered. Knowing color preferences is very useful for an advertisement company.