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- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.zip
HP CEO Says They Brick Printers That Use Third-Party Ink Because of … Hackers::The company says it wants to protect you from “viruses.” Experts are skeptical.
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Amazing how completely absurd things like this come out of their mouths and they expect people to believe it. Insulting is what it is. We’ve had an HP AIO printer for a decade + that is “bricked” because of their stupid DRM. I can’t even use the scanner because we have non-HP ink. Never gonna buy another HP product.
That’s literally a crime. HP exceeded authorized access to your computer (specifically, the microcontroller in your printer) in order to damage it. I don’t know if the criminal complaint should be directed to the FBI or the FTC, but either way, you should file one.
You put the wrong thing in and they take away all functionality.
I, once again, am forced to ask…when do we start burning things?
HP is responsible for PC LOAD LETTER.
Never forget…
What are you complaining about? Those were the glory days of HP.
THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS
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Honestly I think a lot of people are like me. Waiting for other people to start something.
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The problem is it’s hard to get away with burning down a building unless you’re part of a large mob.
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thats because revolution takes time and preparation.
you should organize with you fellow proletariat if thats what you want.
I wont deny this is me being scared to light the first match lol
When will you start burning things? What - specifically - would it take?
I think that basically would be the same answer as your question.
Edit:. Sorry, looks like you probably had this conversation already. Half of the comments look deleted on my end .
Honestly I already admitted it somewhere else. This is just me being chicken shit to fight the first match. But it will take is me being able to blend into a mob that’s already someplace.
What harm are they saying these “hackable” cartridges can even do? Brick the printers? So they are preemptively bricking the printers because… the hackers might… brick the printers? Makes sense! I expect better from corpo technobabble. This is just idiotic.
Site won’t let me read the article, but if I remember correctly from another one of these threads, they’re saying that a hacked cartridge could be used to load malware onto the computer itself. If true, the printer itself is hilariously insecure, as are the drivers they provide.
Right? Instead of bricking the printer they can make their software secure. But we all know the reality is they want to punish anyone who dares to buy third party ink which is why they ignore vulnerabilities, and probably created them in the first place. Just a sad state of affairs. Part of me wants to believe consumers and even corporations will rebel against this obvious BS, but they’ll probably make bank.
Especially since they sell brand new printers for the price of about 3 ink cartridges.
What if they DIDN’T have a chip in the ink cartridge, and just used it as a container that could be refilled and used in every printer they made? No hacking the cartridge then.
No, that’s crazy talk!
No but see then you could get hacked through…uh…nanobots in the ink! Yeah. Real problem, totally possible, definitely happens.
Meanwhile, here in reality land:
People are downgrading their firmware to ancient versions likely containing old CVEs because fuck HP and their printer cartridge mafia.
Why does the ink cartridge need to be so smart that it has CVEs?
The printer firmware, not the cartridge.
Ah my bad
It’s always so sad to see how far HP has fallen. They used to be such an innovative company and produce so many good products but then they decided to not anymore.
I don’t know. They’ve been fucking up for a while now. At least back to the whole compaq mess.
Their industrial 3D printers (multi jet fusion) revolutionized the market
So the bricking is because there are chips in the ink cartridges. And why are there chips in the cartridges? Because HP wants to charge exorbitant rates for ink.
This makes me want to spread malware through HP printers
Careful or they’ll hire you!
“They’re hacking our profits!” - HP CEO
Imagine if they put engineers time and money into developing faster, lighter, printers or faster, easier to use scanners or next generation OCR software or some sort of enterprise printing solution that doesn’t make me want to throw up.
No. Physical DRM only.
Also, their laptops and business workstations have been quite bad in my experience.
HACK THE
PLANETPRINTER INK CARTRIDGES!Username checks out
HP trying to pull a “Google” and say it’s all for our own protection. :)
I’m not big on gambling. But I feel I could bet that their software/firmware is so bad that someone could still hack the network via the bricked printer
Oh. The ink is the issue. I see. My bad HP. I thought hackers hacked using software.
HP is doing what now?
Sounds to me like HP themselves are the hackers, exceeding authorized access in order to destroy people’s property. Prosecute HP!
Here’s the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:
The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986 (CFAA) is a United States cybersecurity bill that was enacted in 1986 as an amendment to existing computer fraud law (18 U. S. C. § 1030), which had been included in the Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984. Prior to computer-specific criminal laws, computer crimes were prosecuted as mail and wire fraud, but the applying law was often insufficient.
There is nothing quite like a company praying on the ignorance of people who don’t know that you can’t get a virus on your devices by using 3rd party ink. The ink itself cannot do anything on its own to harm your PC, as far as I’m aware.
