https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1732627752162095512
add a new one to the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation.
“During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”
-Michael Parenti Blackshirts and the reds
It’s gonna be a hoot when all the Sinophobes start getting riled up about the evils of wage slavery, but exclusively in the context of what evil China is doing to the Uyghurs
there are comments in this very thread that are doing that lol
Strong “learning to read is a communist plot” energy.
“Lmao stupid communists getting taught to read so they can be forced to read propaganda. Now, let me check NextDoor and Facebook for the latest news…”
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Most people who believe this genocide is happening have no idea who Adrian Zenz is. Look at when they try to source articles about it. They’ll send you five. Four of those will all be direct Zenz citations and the other will be the Heritage Foundation.
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Zyklon Zenz gets zapped again
“waaah, I hallucinated that God told me to destroy China, a which definitely isn’t a manifestation of my internal racism, but no-ones believing the genocide I made up in a fever dream” - Zenz
Let’s be fair to zenz here, having a job is a form of torture.
True. The Uyghurs are being genocided! In the same sense that all of us and the natural enjoyment of life is too.
I wish China would oppress me
So the re-education was teaching them how to attach side view mirrors on an assembly line?
They say side view mirror site is 20/20
So they ditched the genocide narrative, then went to the cultural genocide narrative (which was more fair but still incomplete and misleading), and now they’re just railing against poor people having jobs and education?
cultural genocide narrative (which was more fair but still incomplete and misleading)
I disagree that it was “more fair”. The cultural genocide narrative only makes sense to the vast majority to Westoids because Westoids tend to think of Islam as a monolith of Burkha-wearing Wahabis. Some of the “evidence” presented by Westoids of this cultural genocide was that Uyghur women were not wearing hijabs or burkhas, completely ignoring the fact that the traditional headwear for a Uyghur woman is neither of those things, but rather a colorful square hat.
They are GENOCIDING poverty!
The solution, obviously, is to give everyone in Taiwan an AMERICAN MADE m-16 and carpet bomb the factories. Then send in disruptors to raze the housing units and steal whatever possessions - anything of value - to stir chaos in the local government. This will create dual pressure from within and without and we can finally bulkanize China’s vast resources for western investor hoarding.
Wait how does this help the uyghurs?
Huh? What Uyghurs?
They will be uplifted in their new found and will be featured in the wikipedia column next to the tiny with a footnote. That’s a prestige of being 's friend. Very dapper!
And we’ll promote one of the most corrupt ones who is only loosely tied to the region through the relative of a relative in “exile” as the vice deputy vice chair of the Chief of Staff of the newly appointed totally not connected to the oil and gas and or weapons companies regional Viceroy.
So they have representation, and a seat-ish at the table.
nice try adrian, but i’m still not gonna buy a tiguan
Zenz confirmed to be member of the IMT related Fightback Symbionese Liberation Army caucus since he correctly stated that wage exists in China proving that the Stalinist state didn’t abolish value form
I mean… It’s probably the “involuntary” portion of their reeducation that folk take exception to. Maybe let’s not forget that…
Surely a better way to handle Wahhabism than drone bombs and depleted uranium bullets
Given that Zenz is a Christian Dominionist, I assumed the correct way to deal with Wahhabism is a Crusade.
Given that Zenz is a Christian Dominionist
you can just say mayo
you don’t have to be politically correct
There’s more than one flavor.
50 shades of milquetoast
We all aren’t that flavor of mayo, show some respect.
Remember that literally everyone considered the ETIM a terrorist organization right up until Zenz fabricated his bunk genocide claims, and then very suddenly the US and a few key allies dropped that label from them.
Redditors are some of the most gullible fucks on the planet
Japan reclassified them as terrorists last week
I don’t approve of using the word terrorism in any official context, but that’s based.
“Japan embraces Mao Zedong thought” - Reddit probably
Japan redemption arc??
You go to prison if you don’t send your kids to school in the West.
Mandatory education is normal as fuck
You also frequently go to prison if you don’t work in the U.S. (assuming you’re poor)
It used to be illegal for black people to be unemployed for too long in much of the south.
Except…I can choose the school my kids go to and participate in deciding what they learn.
I can choose the school
You don’t get to choose what public school your kids go to in the US. Now if you’re rich enough you can send them to a private school, or if you have the free time you can home school them but you still have to use and approved curriculum. Your options are still limited and you will be punished for not picking one.
You can move to a different school system. It’s not terribly hard. And if you don’t like the approved curriculum, you join the school board, and you work to change it. Otherwise, yes…we require our kids to go to school.
Ah yes, moving is always easy in the US especially with how affordable housing is right now!
Also it’s great that public schools are funded by property taxes so poorer areas always have way shittier schools. Poors should just buy a house in the nicer countries.
I am sorry did you just say moving was an option for school choice? Do you know how much that costs?
Don’t be sorry… And yes, I did.
Just sell your house and move bro
Very interesting, please tell me more
What would you like to know?
No, it’s not. The whole thing from A-Z has been deemed a holocaust-styled genocide since the beginning by westerners. There is no portion of it that has been excepted despite the dubious evidence and organizations involved with ‘exposing’ China
That’s… Not accurate from my perspective.
Then maybe stop consuming right-wing media, hate to break it to you bud, but you’ve been qanon-styled brainwashed by media that is straight up informed by a major well funded cult
I get most of my news from Allsides, bud.
Gonna assume that was sarcasm, cause otherwise you’re just media illiterate
Really? What Chinese news sources do you?
Aw lol you think there’s more than one side with mass media control
Go on
Then your perspective has gigantic holes
We’re going to agree to disagree on this one.
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They should just fucking kill them all like the US does
Only one ethnic muslim minority in China has this attention drawn to it, the others dont have this problem because they didnt have a serious right wing fundamentalism issue
Who is the US killing now?
Directly through presence or funding: Palestinians, Yemenis, Syrians, Afghanis, Iraqis, Somalis, people in Niger
We never left these places or we are there illegally.
Through our criminal policy most of the world
Venezualans, and Ukrainians. Cubans. I mean these are just the obvious ones that everyone should know.
Oooooooh yes more meat for the meat grinder gets me all hot and spicy xi daddy. Please more wage slaves for the machine.
We don’t have downvotes on hexbear so I’m just popping in to say that you should feel a deep sense of shame for talking like that. Like just do better for yourself.
UwU
Do you have a positive alternative in mind or are you just being a jackass?
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Not mostly
If you think this situation is like what Canada did to its indigenous population, you’re projecting. Beyond that, trying to have it both ways with “Mao apologist” and “Daddy Xi” just goes to further demonstrate you don’t really have anything to say but that you think you’re superior.
As an aside, it’s hilarious that you depict Mao as somehow antithetical to “taking people from their communities”. He cared about community and wanted to foster it, but he also believed and put into practice that people sometimes had to be at least temporarily transplanted to new environments, all the way from the mass-rehabilitation of opiate addicts at the end of the Civil War to the education-by-labor of the Cultural Revolution. Like in those cases, the Uighur people interned here are not being permanently separated from their families or communities, but receiving education and training so that when they return, they have more options immediately available to them besides joining theofascist militants.
Laziest lib propaganda: exists
You, condescendingly gullible: now’s my time to shine!
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Oh, i get it. You don’t know what colonialism is
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Yeah I did, wait do you guys condone wage slavery here?
Oh, is wage labor bad or something? Damn, we should organize to get rid of it then.
Right? We should.
Cool, I’ll dismantle my government and you dismantle yours, and I’m sure neither party will attempt to turn us against one another.
As you surely know, the point of the post isn’t “wage slavery good”, the point is “wage slavery is a minor issue compared to literal genocide, so talking like this is an indication that Zenz is maybe quite the exaggerator.”