I don’t believe in boycotts working. Boycott this anyway.
Or better yet if someone you know wants to watch it pirate it and give them a copy.
I remember my wife getting me to watch that starballs movie where the grand moppet character or whatever was some vile CGI rigged corpse.
I felt viceral disgust and a portent of the future. Fuck me for thinking that it should mean something that someone lived and died, and that things should end and decay so new things can take their place.
https://harrisonestatelaw.com/celebrity-estate-lesson-gene-wilder/
He didn’t just leave her a lump sum, it was only 20m in total. Split amongst the family, probably all used to living the high life. It’s reasonably possible that they’ve spent through what they had and it’s this or reduce lifestyle
The announcement came on the 55th anniversary of the 1971 feature’s premiere, the latest synergistic effort by ElevenLabs. Last week, it released an “Odyssey” audiobook featuring an AI-recreated Michael Caine ahead of Christopher Nolan’s feature adaptation, and it debuted a version of “The Wonderful Wizard of Oz” read by an AI Garland ahead of “Wicked: For Good” last year.
That tells you everything you need to know about the company. First thing you drop to make you faster when chasing money is morals.
To be fair … Gene Wilder did write and star in a movie about bringing back the dead.
Oh, and I’m firmly on the “schtien” (not “schtine”) side of the debate.
Every time I’ve seen a movie with some “resurrected” actor, without exception, I am revolted and totally removed from the film.
Will someone else in the role fall short of the original? Probably… but that’s because the original is dead. Let them rest in peace, and allow all of the living to enjoy their works before we follow them.
Do other people appreciate these computer revenants? Wouldn’t someone who’s never seen the original also be removed from the film by a CGI “actor” amongst all of the meatballs?
In this case, are voice actors that hard to find? We can’t find anyone who sounds somewhat like Gene Wilder?
Re wife/family approval… get a job. Maybe as a voice actor, I’ve heard we are short of them.
Old man yelling at clouds out
If you read the article his wife did.
Translated: she wants more money.
You stole my identity… You lose! You get NOTHING! GOOD DAY, SIR!
This is not a surprise, his widow has been profiting off of him from the moment he died. Within a year of his death, I started seeing lottery scratch tickets with his face scattered across the ground outside gas stations.
Last year I saw a stage play about Gene Wilder. The actor playing Wilder, Jonathan Randell Silver, bore a passing visual resemblance to him, helped along by a good hair and makeup job, but also sounded and behaved very like him. Silver had obviously studied Wilder’s mannerisms and choices, both in Wilder’s iconic roles and in Wilder’s own persona from interviews and such, and Silver’s performance in the play really evoked Wilder on a very effective level whether it was recreating some of Wilder’s famous comedy bits and characters or portraying the real Wilder behind the scenes. This was an actor who understood the role, and used real human choices and talent to create his performance.
There are countless talented actors and impressionists who could have recreated Wilder’s Wonka on a human level and given a genuine performance with a real soul behind it. The use of low-effort AI slop instead was a deliberate choice here, and it falls to the viewing public to accept this or not.
Also, this is a fucking game show. They are digitally defiling a beloved corpse for a fucking game show.
Any idea where I could watch a recording? I didn’t know anything about this show and would love to see it. I could find small clips and excerpts but could find the whole show anywhere
As a theatre artist myself - part of the fun of doing live performance is the ephemeral, never-to-be-repeated part. Recorded theatre never works.
Yeah it does. It can work just fine. Just because you have that opinion doesn’t mean it’s true. I also have a background in performing arts if we just want to appeal to authority…
But I’ve personally seen several recordings of live shows that were pretty good representations of the show itself. For a recent example, the recording of Hadestown with the orginal cast is pretty solid and I quite enjoyed it even after seeing the live show previously.
I’ve also seen the Hadestown Netflix- and Hamilton, and I grew up watching the Cats original recording on VHS.
Although they’re entirely passable, they aren’t as good as movie-musicals (examples - Singing in the Rain, The Muppets 2011, Mary Poppins, West Side Story, Hairspray, Wicked) or as good as the live shows.
Recorded theatre never works.
Is not the same as:
Although they’re entirely passable, they aren’t as good as movie-musicals
Watching a live performance is going to have a different energy obviously. But seeing it recorded is still better than never seeing it at all.
The “art is ephemeral” is pure art school nonsense and 99% of the time ends up being turning into “art for the elite that can afford it.” I thought it was silly in art school 30 years ago and have had 30 years to think about why I still think it’s silly. It’s one of those buttons for me that, when I see it, I have a really hard time not being harsh to the person regurgitating the sentiment.
Given the choice of a recorded theatre or live theatre id pick live theatre.
Given the choice of a movie or recorded theatre I’d pick a movie.
And I think that’s the nail in the coffin for me.
It was a small production at an Off-Broadway theatre, so I don’t believe any full filmed production of it has been published, but maybe someone will remount a production sometime. It was a very good show.
Off topic question but is your username a reference to the Marx Brother’s movie Duck Soup’s Rufus T Firefly character? I know it’s not quite the same name but close enough to name me raise an eyebrow.
I assume the eyebrow you’re raising is painted on. 🥸
And yes, you’re correct. Short version of the story: I’m a lifelong Marx Brothers fan and I used “Rufus T. Firefly” as a screenname for a bit back in the 1990s before deciding I wanted to use something a little more “me,” changing the first name to my given one, and dropping the period after the T.
Thanks for your curiosity!
That’s awesome! I don’t think I’ve seen a Marx Brothers reference outside of very surface level Groucho, Harpo, or Chico. I used Zeppo as a internet handle for a long time. Really cool, and kind of excited, to see someone else that’s a fan!
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In a world of AI fabrication
Take a look and you’ll see
The slop enshittificationWe’ll begin with marketing spin
Traveling in the world of exploitation
What we’ll see will defy explanationIf you want to view paradise, Simply vibe around and feel it, Anything you want, Just steal it. Want to change the world? Just dirty deal it.
Sheet 🤣 I got more joy out of you than any of this chatgipity slop. I might have to steal this. 🫵
I thought we were boiling the ocean to cure cancer.
We need more orphans on that fire!
1% curing cancer 98% anime titties, 1% everything else.
This is like living through IRL horror movie. How awful. Gene Wilder is unironically my favorite actor of all time. The fact that his wife of all people is ok with this shows how out of touch people are with reality. We’re literally doing anything to escape at this point. This madness needs to stop.
She’s doing nothing wrong.
“But sir, the cow is dead.” “Shaddup! There’s still milk inside there somewhere. Keep looking!!!”.
