This was filmed Rue Gabriel Perri, near Maison Kouts

  • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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    1 hour ago

    It’s poorly designed infrastructure. Don’t blame the people (at least not entirely). The true fault lies with the city planners.

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      54 minutes ago

      Yeah, I can defo see it. It has barely no space for walking, no place for people to sit and no trees for shade

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    Its called living in a city. People sit where they want to sit. You are not better than them. You are a monkey on a bike. They are a monkey who needs to rest. Complaining about people sitting down when you are on a bike is literally inventing a problem. Welcome to living among other humans. You arent in a car, you are going slow enough to move out of the way of a person. If it were a pregnant woman or woman with infant child or elderly person you would be the asshole here.

    tl:dr Fuck you, asshole, adapt or die. Complain to your city managers who don’t provide benches. Fuck you. These people are just walking on their legs. You choose otherwise. Fuck you. Pedestrians will always have the right of way no matter what. Fuck off. I hate entitled assholes with technology beating off on people who don’t use their preferred technology. They are just using their legs. You choose to use a bike. Your opinion is invalid.

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      55 minutes ago

      did you watch the clip? People put chairs in the bike lane, not just sitting on the curb. Those particular people are assholes. The curb-sitters were not actually in the way.

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    10 hours ago

    It’s not so black and white. Yes asshole behaviour. But also: the sidewalk is very narrow, there are many shops, people living in the neighborhood are likely to not have any garden or tiny balconies etc. The (other) real culprit is the street designer / city planner. You can see on the other side of the street that despite it being a very narrow, multimodal busy place… they did NOT sacrifice all (free?) streetside parking in favour of more “living space” for pedestrians. Likely recorded during heat wave, with unlivably overheated Appartments and not enough trees/parks in the area…

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    11 hours ago

    FWIW saw a scooter parked this way, not on a bike lane but in front of a bike garage. I put a paper on it saying “This is not a parking spot, next time I’m moving it myself” with the intent of being polite but firm. Since then they never parked there anymore. Sometimes people don’t even realize.

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    16 hours ago

    Wow, this is awful.

    I’ve ridden bikes in many cities (London, Paris, Toronto, Montreal, Seville), never saw anything close to this bad.

    How standard is this in Saint Denis?

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    22 hours ago

    An friendship ended over something this petty

    A friend and I were sitting on the curb, legs stretched out over the bike lane. I saw a bike coming and I picked up our bag and got up. He didn’t move and got mad at me for doing that “without warning” right before the cyclist rode between us (that was the only path they had). Ex-friend then turned their ire towards the cyclist calling them rude and whatnot. Fortunately the cyclist kept riding. I was finally able to tell them the bike is why I moved. And dude just tried to justify they could sit there if we had just curled our legs, saying there was enough room for the bike to pass. Bro. The entire lane is for the bike. We were just taking advantage of the fact there were no bikes around when we sat down. I had thought he would have the same response I had when the cyclist came. Apparently not and he ranted about it the whole way home. I blocked him when he drove off.

    ETA: he was problematic before that and the weed wasn’t worth it

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    France is a tad crazy about driving and parking, or at least it was when I was there last. It’s kinda like NYC but no rules. I saw a bakery delivery truck back up to corner and back into the lead car, ramming over and over until the next 5 cars where pushed into eachother and he could park in the corner spot.

    Cars all over the sidewalks and in the median toward the tower. Noone giving right of way, you had to just take it or you’d never get in.

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        15 hours ago

        Beautiful country, good food, strong on protests. The car situation is a bit strange. The service industry was a bit off-putting, but I was a tourist and well, most US tourists are awful. Maybe half the people there were nice and helpful.

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          When I was in Paris some years ago, I was amazed how anti-foreigners it felt when it is easily top 5 international tourist destinations in the world. No public bathrooms anywhere, do the French never need to go?!

          I went to the louvre and wanted to buy the 3DS museum guide software. I looked for it in the gift shop, it was available in one or two languages but not English. When I asked, the seller laughed at me like I’m an idiot, “oh we haven’t had English copies of it in months! what did you expect?”

          What did you think I expected? I expected the most famous museum in the world to keep stocking something which is clearly selling out frequently!

          The whole city felt like it didn’t want tourists there. It was such a strange feeling.

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            The french have always been very chauvinist about their language. They do not like English, as they view french as an equally great world language. It was likely somehow obligated to have an English version, and subsequently a somewhat conscious choice by some employees or board of directors to not keep it stocked as well as the French version.

            Also, it is over tourism. There are so many tourists people are sick of them. It’s not a french but a human thing. I’ve seen “touris raus” in Berlin too… The downside of raising housing prices etc are by a significant part of population valued more than the economic advantage of more local consumption (and I get that).

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              2 hours ago

              I can totally accept the over tourism argument. In that case I’m doing my part, and telling people NOT to go there! :)

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            As a born and raised parisian, public bathrooms was an issue to us too. Lot of right wingers where against because drugs addicts use them, apparently it was better to see peoples urinate in publics gardens.

            Finally the city council started building new sanisettes https://www.paris.fr/pages/les-toilettes-publiques-a-paris-27216

            There are very nice if you have a penis otherwise god bless you if you need to sit on this. The propreté de Paris clean them twice a day but we are french, we love to turn things dirty… Still better than the public garden.

            I am sorry you had a bad experience I have family that visit almost every years and it is luck related, most of them have meet very nice peoples but I know we can be jerks…

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              11 hours ago

              Thanks. Honestly the people weren’t the problem, it was moreso the way the city was managed and regulated. Again, it is in the top 5 (potentially top 1) tourist destinations in the world, you’d think the city would make it a priority to make tourists feel welcome from the infrastructure up. Again, pubic toilets alone can be the first and last straw. Every tourists needs to go at some point, it should not be a pain point.

              Maybe I had inflated expectations, I don’t know. I’m not much into traveling anyway, I was with family and enjoyed my time with them, but everywhere we went felt surprisingly less welcoming than I expected. Except Disneyland, but that’s neither here nor there :P

              It has been long enough that I don’t trust my memory on this, but I think it was really common to have no English signage anywhere…? This is not the Parisian people’s fault, this is the fault of business owners bafflingly choosing to alienate tourists, and the city regulators not caring either. In any other city I’d accept it, local businesses might not want the tourist traffic for plenty of good reasons, but this is freaking Paris!

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            11 hours ago

            French people seem to be extremely hostile to anything and anyone remotely not French.

            In their defence, though, they also seem to be extremely hostile to anything and anyone remotely French.

            Maybe it’s not much of a defence, now that I think about it.

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    OP is showing incredible restraint here not to just kick those parked scooters over.

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        19 hours ago

        I wonder how hard it would be to mount a truck’s airhorn on a bike.

        That wouldn’t work on the bikes that have been left unattended, though, hence the kicking.

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          13 hours ago

          You could probably get a ton of mileage out of an aerosol air horn, if those are available in your area.

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            13 hours ago

            Years ago I did have an air-powered horn for my bike that you could pump up with a regular bike pump. It was pretty loud. The thing with bike horns, though, is that the times you’d want to use them are also the times when you need to be grabbing both brakes. I find just shouting works as well.

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              11 hours ago

              Hmmm. Interesting, I hadn’t thought of that. So maybe there’s a need for a bike horn that’s super loud and that you can trigger with a finger while you’re braking.

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    1 day ago

    This must be quite a more tolerant region of friends because the the 2 French people I know would have immediately resorted to violence. Totally valid as well.