• jphoc@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    What I keep going back to are the teams that in the playoffs every year and going far in the playoffs without elite QB play. They all focus on team building first through the draft and then they get the QBs that drop to them.

    The Chiefs before Mahomes. The Eagles before Hurts. San Fran before Purdy. The Ravens before Lamar.

    The blueprint is there. Keep collecting talent in the draft and let the qb drop to you because you have a boatload of picks and can do it.

    This is why I think the Bears keep Fields and trade back. It allows them to further stack their team and take a Qb that drops to them if Fields doesn’t pan out in year 4 or his 5th year extension year.

    We don’t have to rush into a qb pick this year. We can be patient with Fields, stack the team and then ounce in 25 or 26 draft if a qb drops to us.

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    1 year ago

    These coaches know a shit ton more about football than you (the average bears fan). Fields is real. The coaches have a learning curve to deal with such a dynamic athlete.

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    What I keep going back to are the teams that in the playoffs every year and going far in the playoffs without elite QB play. They all focus on team building first through the draft and then they get the QBs that drop to them.

    The Chiefs before Mahomes. The Eagles before Hurts. San Fran before Purdy. The Ravens before Lamar.

    The blueprint is there. Keep collecting talent in the draft and let the qb drop to you because you have a boatload of picks and can do it.

    This is why I think the Bears keep Fields and trade back. It allows them to further stack their team and take a Qb that drops to them if Fields doesn’t pan out in year 4 or his 5th year extension year.

    We don’t have to rush into a qb pick this year. We can be patient with Fields, stack the team and then ounce in 25 or 26 draft if a qb drops to us.

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      1 year ago

      I think this is the approach that will keep this team competitive year in and year out. That’s all I want. Especially with how many injuries there are on every team at every position nowadays.

  • OddExpert8851@alien.topB
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    The play where he says Justin creating something out of nothing with Mooney coming wide open just as Justin gets to the top of his drop is why Justin is the problem. That’s probably a 20+ yard catch and run if thrown on time and in stride. Instead he doesn’t know what defense the lions are in and cant/wont ever make that pass.

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        It’s not even throwing it in the middle of the field. Tim Jenkins clearly points out that Mooney is the first read. Mooney comes wide open in the nose of the field.

        If fields anticipated it. That’s a huge gain. But by the time fields sees him open it’s too late. I’m not sure why people are arguing this.

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    1 year ago

    Why does everyone love the phrase “The Problem” so much? It’s killing me lol

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      I am sick of it, but it’s just a part of the current clickbait sports lexicon that I hate so much including

      “The Guy”

      “He is Him”

      “The Solution”

      “Generational”

      “Elite”

      Sports takes have probably never been nuanced, but I think it’s gotten worse recently

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        1 year ago

        He’s not the problem means someone else is… The coaches. Don’t wanna see Justin go somewhere else

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      After this season, ESPN should make a mini-series documentary called THE PROBLEM, and analyze what happened the last 3 years. What was THE PROBLEM? Fields? Coaching? Both? Tune in next week…

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      I hate the term “the one” or “him”, like there’s one QB out there who was born to take us to the SB.

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        I absolutely despise „the guy“. It’s in every comment about him. Same as draft guys saying „I could see…“ followed by the most unrealistic and dumb take imaginable

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      The Jenkins click bait rollercoaster titles are fun.

      The past few Justin Fields videos

      • Justin Fields is not the problem

      • Justin Fields struggles

      • Justin Fields is officially back.

      • Justin Fields is back, baby.

      • Is Fields done in Chicago?

      • Panic in Chicago, WTF is going on with Fields and Chicago O?

      • What the Heck happened to Fields and the Bears O?

      • Justin Fields will be the MVP Preseason Week 1 Overreaction

      • Justin Fields is a bust Preseason Week 1 Overreaction

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    Fields isn’t “The problem”, but he’s not the solution either and he is “a problem”.

    There are a lot of positions in the NFL where you can contend with a mediocre player - Quarterback is not one of them.

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      How do we know his potential with this coaching staff? Do we know for sure the offensive staff are able to develop a young quarterback? I’m not giving him a pass, but based on what I have seen of this staff and the top QBs in the draft I don’t know if it’s wise to move on from him.

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    Regardless of whether Fields is the problem or the coaches, it won’t do much good to separate one from the other yet again

    If the coaches go, as they should, then the new incoming coaches need to be able to draft their own guy.

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    1 year ago

    Justin isn’t the problem but he’s not the solution either. It’s time to reset the clock. Ugh…I’m getting tired of this.

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    he’s one of the worst qbs on 3rd down. He has a 57% completion on 3rd down. The only down he has more ints than td.

    he’s one of the worst qbs in the 4th quarter. over half of his ints come in the 4th quarter.

    out of 32 starts fields has a turnover in 24 of them

    He has one career comeback drive. It was set up by a turnover where we ran the ball on every play. Justin accounted for -1 yards.

    Justin is one of many problems with this team. That includes a GM who choose fields over stroud. That includes a defensive HC orchestrating one of the worst pass defenses in the league. That choose Getsy as OC.

    One doesn’t invalidate the other.

    DJ, JJ, and Sweat if we ignore that terrible contract are the only 3 people worth keeping. Wright and Dexter go in the TBD category with good and bad data points to point at that you’d expect from rookies learning in the NFL.