Donald Trump has issued his latest threat to Iran and said that if officials fail to make a deal with the United States “the whole country is going to get blown up.”

The president also made threats Sunday morning to target civil infrastructure after it was reported that Iranian forces were refusing to allow ships to pass through the Strait of Hormuz this weekend.

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    So Americans, are you really going to let this clearly unhinged man drive the world into nuclear Armageddon? You will cling on to the jobs you say you hate until the last second of doom lest you find balls and do anything?

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      As much as I hate to admit it, because I am one, modern Americans are wimps.

      I mean…we’re letting a criminal pedophile drive our futures into the dirt. As in, we will see a decline in the quality of our lives, for the remainder of our lives.

      It’s not really a matter of opinion. We’re weaklings.

      Whether “America The Brave” was true at some point or just propaganda, the bottom line is we’re completely and totally pathetic right now. An absolutely shameful time to be an American citizen.

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          I don’t think the U.S is so far gone that we can’t turn this whole saga into a history lesson in 2028.

          I would have thought the same but you guys (speaking generally of course) reelected the Child Rapist and not 2 weeks ago, still voted a republican back to Congress to replace MTG…

          So yes, there is a theoretical chance to get rid of this problem via voting… but something tells me Americans are unable to learn lessons anymore

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          Oh please. Whoever gets the Dem nomination is going to continue all the evil warmongering and disastrous economic corruption Trump is guilty of, they’ll just be less obnoxious about it.

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        We’re not wimps, weaklings, or cowards. We’re simply not allowed to walk up to Trump’s house, knock on his door, tell him everything he’s doing is atrocious, and tell him to stop it, and we’re not allowed to do all the other illegal things we wish we could do to him either. We’d end up in prison or dead. If anyone decides to do any of that, he’d be a heroic Luigi, but Luigi is rotting away in prison now. And/or we need a large scale united front uprising. We must study ants and learn from them how to unite a million people to accomplish one big task together.

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      You mean the job that pays for my rent and food so I’d don’t freeze/starve to death? Yeah, I don’t really have a choice. I hate the shit Trump is doing but not enough to destroy my entire life over it. Even if whatever I do in protest is successful. If I lose this job I’m not just going to be able to pick back up where I left off at a new place. It’s going to be a pay cut and I’m not making enough as it is.

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        If you are really that precarious, you will probably be on the street soon anyway due to Trump’s upheaval around the world. Better get planning on how to be homeless.

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        Well… there are probably a million options to enact before self immolation but you are choosing to just play the card victim and pretend there is nothing you can do until there will be truly nothing you can do.

        Let’s not forget you guys have been at the “shrug and ignore” tactic for at least 15 - 20 years now?

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          Please list any of these millions of options that I personally can do to stop Trump from fucking with Iran.

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            you could do small stuff that by itself won’t stop the child rapist but would create pressure like dropping the spy services like Meta, xitter, etc… you could donate to groups actually organizing, you could email your friends and fam to encourage them as well…

            Of course, you are likely to do none of that because it’s a minor inconvenience to you and it won’t solve the problem quickly, completely and permanently

            You could do harder stuff like organize strikes in your city but you won’t because there is actual work and risk in this and you’ll implode if you lose your job

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              like dropping the spy services like Meta, xitter, etc…

              Never used them in the first place.

              you could donate to groups actually organizing, you could email your friends and fam to encourage them as well…

              Already did

              You could do harder stuff like organize strikes in your city but you won’t because there is actual work and risk in this and you’ll implode if you lose your job

              No one would follow me and yeah, I already covered the fact that I’m not going to torpedo my entire future (however shitty it may be) to have a minimal impact on what Trump is doing.

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        Seriously, why do the citizens get blamed?

        …because you voted for a fraudster, child rapist for president TWICE! and many more times before that for Republicans that paved the way

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          So you blindly hate people from a country because of what it’s “leaders” are doing? What other countries do you arbitrarily hate their people? Just curious how deep this national prejudice/bigotry goes.

          I sure as fuck didn’t vote for him, bold claim to imply I did. And you avoided answering the fucking question I asked. What would you have us do, realistically? Answer the fucking question instead of using blind prejudice/bigotry as a defense.

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            So you blindly hate people from a country because of what it’s “leaders” are doing?

            Not blindly as said citizens are responsible for electing this particularly shitty regime TWICE… and not “hate”, just disapproval

            I sure as fuck didn’t vote for him, bold claim to imply I did.

            I never said you did… it’s called “generalization”, look it up

            What would you have us do, realistically?

            Protest… look what French people do when their gov does shitty stuff. At this point I would settle for anything that is not what you are doing, which is pretending to be hapless victims of your own shitty doing.

            Answer the fucking question instead of using blind prejudice/bigotry as a defense.

            I see you live up to the American standard and read at a 6th grade level.

            Your first questions was “why do the citizens get blamed?” and I told you it’s because you voted this gov in TWICE…

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        Because it takes a village to raise a child, and youre the village.

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    USA by criminals for criminals. Absolutely disgusting country, just as bad as Putin’s Russia.
    To the American population: The fact that you elected this corrupt criminal pedophile malignant narcissist of a moron twice will never be forgotten - never!

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      will never be forgotten

      Sadly, you’re wrong. It will be forgotten. That’s why history keeps repeating itself.

      If people didn’t forget, they wouldn’t have voted for fascists. After the war, people swore they would never forget the horrors of fascism either. And yet… Trump is soiling the White House today.

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        Has Hitler been forgotten?
        This time it’s even worse, because Americans have been taught about Hitler and Nazism and the horrors that follow with authoritarian governments.
        Americans have no excuse, they should have learned enough from history to not repeat the mistakes of Nazism.

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        Edit: I read the above as sarcasm, I don’t think Germany is still shunned, but it is for sure still remembered what they did in WW2.

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        Has it been forgotten, if you mention Hitler, does anyone still remember? No it will not be forgotten, just as the USA helping Europe hasn’t been forgotten. But the reason Germany was slowly forgiven was first that they were split in 2 making the power of Germany smaller, it was a different time, with no prior historical lesson to learn from regarding Nazism. and that the political environment in both parts of Germany was changed completely, with Western Germany taking responsibility more than any country had done before them.

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      I’d argue it’s worse, the Russians didn’t exactly elect theirs

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            Back in 2000 he won fair. He did so by playing a strong conservative and nationalist campaign and ridiculing his opponents with the help of a lot media coverage from friendly channels.

            Even now I’d say he doesn’t even have to cheat in the elections themselves because he changed the country itself to the point where he can have any real threats thrown in jail or killed and has a firm hold over what most of the population knows and gets suggested just keeps him very popular.

            In a lot of ways it’s Trump, after he’s been allowed to stay in power for 26 years

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              He may very well have won fair 26 years ago, but the way you explained the second half I think would qualify any elections had as “sham” lol

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      Idk, I think I’m going to scream at voters for this. Primarily leftist voters, though. I still think I can win over the conservative voters and Congress critters by being nice to them.

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        I’m still screaming at voters, they made an incredibly stupid decision and are now too immature to admit it.

        You help Trump come to power, you’re a fucking scumbag, not a hero.

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          You help Trump come to power

          More than likely no, you didn’t. The election was on rails when Biden decided to drag his moldy ass into a race he couldn’t win, rather than stepping aside after a single term and opening up the primary. Trump came to power because Merrick Garland refused to prosecute him for his many crimes and Silicon Valley swept in to money bomb him.

          Individual voters had no say in any of that. The EC guaranteed they had only the most marginal say in which way their state went. And even the on-the-ground campaigns were dwarfed by the degree of corporate, industrial, and overseas manipulation of public opinion.

          To say any given voter is “responsible” for Trump is like blaming any given butterfly for the next hurricane.