• PolarPirate@lemmy.zip
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    22 hours ago

    Just wanna state that this has been going on since before US involvement. Two dictatirs fighting each other…

  • The D Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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    1 day ago

    ITT: people posting on the internet about something they found out about from the internet saying that an authoritarian regime shutting down the internet because the people under that regime were using it to coordinate resistance efforts is not so bad

    sorry, i’d take y’all a lot more seriously if you were having that conversation over ham radio

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      20 hours ago

      For future reference, any time you want to coordinate some sort of resistance or even protest, the leadership should get on Meshtastic, MeshCore, or some other equivalent. Encrypted mesh communication over radios. The radios are fairly inexpensive starting at around $40.

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          17 hours ago

          And the fact that it’s a mesh so theoretically it should be easy to avoid a single point of failure. If one person with one gets arrested or otherwise silenced, the network stays up. Probably need a way to rotate keys though.

    • Zink@programming.dev
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      1 day ago

      I say we shouldn’t take any platforms “seriously.”

      This platform is small and open and hosted by volunteer individuals. That is what makes it nice for most of us, but it also means there will always be a variety in who you interact with and it will never be a consistent homogenous branded product.

      The huge corporate platforms kind of flip that - you get a massive user base and a very intentionally designed user experience, but everything else about it is a nightmare.

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      1 day ago

      I know a few Iranian people who are studying in my university in Italy and they are all Zionist… I understand that living in a dictatorship is bad but bro you can’t justify a genocide just because you want to dress up more revealing holy shit bro

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        A good chunk of the Iranian diaspora are the old supporters of the monarchy. Under the Shah Iran and Israel were allies. Also a lot of Iranians are strongly racist against Arabs. The fact that a lot of Arabs killed family members, when Iraq invaded them in 1980 and an eight year long bloody war followed, certainly does not help.

        Not saying Israels genocide is a good thing, but the Iranian diaspora is probably a bad gauge to judge Iran by.

      • GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca
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        1 day ago

        basically if someone flees a revolution and goes to live in a western country, they’re the worst scum in the world. they seethe with hatred for their former countrymen and they want nothing more than to be placed in power by a US invasion, to put their boots back on the necks of the peasants once again. Not only should you not listen to them, you should be actively hostile to them. If the war causes a global famine (via fertilizer shortages) and it comes to it, you should eat them.

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    You know, i think i might learn how to set up ad hoc networks to prepare for this sort of thing. I know its essentially wartime there now, but without internet, its harder to transmit the truth from the eyes of the civilians. Fucking sucks whats happening there. Repressive government, but filled with people who simply want a life free of the conflict, the endless battles, various ethnic groups simply wanting freedom from those who have invaded and partitioned their people.

    This cant end well. . .

  • PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    There are some in the govt with whitelisted SIM cards and dissidents with starlink dishes but that’s it. Most Iranians are trying to get out of the country to get internet access at a risk.

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    Well, they’re kinda busy right now getting bombed so I don’t think it’s a priority now.

    Like, sure, at first the blackout was due to repression, yes. But then after a while these two countries started bombing the crap out of Iran, so now it’s a slightly different situation.

    Let’s imagine you have two crackheads smashing your front door: are you gonna be worried about fixing the internet at that very moment?

    • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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      The Internet isn’t broken it’s turned off

      The reason its turned off was because of protests.

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      2 days ago

      Gives the regime a nice scapegoat to help turn the protestors anger at the US and external factors.

      The smart thing would have been for the US to quietly back the revolution and provide them with support to overthrow the regime. But here we are.

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        it likely wont happened as they likely quashed the protests with tons of executions, plus they can just turn of the internet to prevent them from organizing further. they did with the murder of the little iranian girl years ago, there wasnt significant pushback since.

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      3 days ago

      At this point, the shutdown might even be strategic, to make it more difficult for the us to gather leaked information

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      They absolutely have internet.

      It’s just state controlled. So basically a national child safety lock. But they 100% have access the internet.

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          I2P traffic isn’t that difficult to detect or block, mainly because bootstrapping a node requires connecting to known reseed servers. They can block those reseed servers and your node would never be able to connect to the network.

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        They do not. They have intranet. No access to oversea servers.

        Some may do, but that’s obviously not for 99% of people.

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      2 days ago

      Oh they certainly do and pop up in our hosting logs. The main one is a /22, so not very large at all, like a small ISP

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        1 day ago

        Certain people in Iran also can access the internet to hack Western infrastructure, etc.

        By your logic Iran’s internet hasn’t been blacked out either because politicians there can still post announcements on Twitter.

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          We weren’t talking about Iran? All infrastructure is hacked on a daily basis, weird propaganda post though.

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    Approximately 0.1 years out of 3 billion years, truly a crisis. Precisely what people occupied themselves with for 3 billion years before the internet existed we may never know. Some claim they spent quite considerable time as single cell organisms, then multicellular aquatic organisms, until the species reached it’s apogee, a flabby orange real estate pedo fraudster.

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      1 day ago

      That’s a stupid time frame. Wouldn’t be so bad except nearly everything relies on the Internet now. Especially information.

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        5 hours ago

        One thing that seemingly doesn’t rely on the internet is Iran’s masterful ability to make the American bullies look criminally stupid. It’s already hugely impressive, imagine what they could do with a bit of WiFi.

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        1 day ago

        lots of prepper fetishist weirdos in this thread who seem to think anyone who thinks electricity, plumbing, and internet is normal are ‘weak’.

        because apparently if we were ‘strong’ we would all be hunting animals and coking their carcasses over fires and sleeping outside… and communicating via smoke signal… lol

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      Survival of the fittest, but unfortunately for all things earthly, for a brief period of time the fittest inexplicably turned out to be an orange blob of shit, jeopardizing any further evolution for all species.

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    3 days ago

    That article reads like a ChatGPT summary, though I’m not sure if that’s partially due to translation from German or not.