This “not a democracy, a republic” crap is becoming more and more popular on the right. They’re not even trying to hide the authoritarianism and fascism any more. They’re now openly saying they don’t support democracy.
It’s literally “democracy = Democrats” and “a republic = republican” to them, simple as.
The Democrats should rename themselves the “Freedom Liberty” party just to fuck with em. Take back some of their words.
This is great, call it the Patriot Party or something and talk about how government waste has turned “Citizens On Patrol” into a bunch of lazy, freedom-suppressing, union members.
We already have the Libertarian party, which is the actual Freedom Liberty party.
Libertarians are more interested in simping for our corporate overlords and removing the age of consent.
Nope that’s just the common Redditor’s prejudice against the party based on what they read on Reddit.
I encourage you to read the actual party platform, which has none of what you described in it.
Some of us have had actual conversations with “Libertarians” and found them to be pretty much in-line with the comment. Not all of us spent our lives on a website.
It’s always deregulate-fuck-you-i-got-mine sociopaths. Libertarians are about as realistic and level-headed as Anarchists. It’s great on paper or for a small group but once millions of people are involved the bad actors show up and ruin it for everyone.
Again, I refer you to the party platform. That is the only definitive thing that Libertarians as a party stand for.
Your hearsay is irrelevant to that fact.
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Nah nah bud that’s the dumb toddler daydream party.
A republic is a type of democracy. This guy is an idiot. 
I just looked it up and did not find a concise definition. According to the German bpb even dictatorships can be republics.
https://www.bpb.de/kurz-knapp/lexika/lexikon-in-einfacher-sprache/250057/republik/
Not necessarily, North Korea is technically a republic.
No, it’s not. They have a hereditary head of state who enforces his rule with control of the military.
Who was the third head of state again? (Hint, it isnt Kim Jung Un)
Well cited effortpost on hexbear about the dprk: https://hexbear.net/post/196389
Now I see what they got defederilized from Lemmy, so much blatant malinformation.
They literally are federated with the main lemmy instance.
It’s not just a Republic its a people’s Republic.
So you know like way better. That’s why they don’t need elections it already says it belongs to the people
They literally hold elections following a concensus process.
Well cited effortpost on hexbear about the dprk: https://hexbear.net/post/196389
Sigh
Sorry you prefer to choose between bad and worse every election over reaching concensus in a constituent meeting and then voting to confirm the candidate in an election, but that doesn’t make the dprk’s system less democratic
That’s a hell of a rant for an obvious joke comment
Fucking tankie scum
Racist “believe anything the US says about a state enemy they’ve previously committed genocide on” bootlicker
Two words: Tienanmen square. If you have anything that resembles a defense of that you’re a POS. And you do.
Some grade 9 ass shit. A republic IS a democratic structure of government. It’s representative democracy.
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This is terrifying.
This is seditious.
This is the scariest part about it
Remember when people were saying that Ron DeSantis was “very intelligent”?
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Under his eye.
They treat the Constitution like they do their bible.
They don’t read it.
If they do read it, they just read the bits they agree with.
If they read the parts that don’t fit their desired narrative, they engage in mental gymnastics to reinterpret what was written to fit their desires.
Edit:
Jefferson’s reply did not address their concerns about problems with state establishment of religion — only of establishment on the national level. The letter contains the phrase “wall of separation between church and state,” which led to the short-hand for the Establishment Clause that we use today: “Separation of church and state.”
Which led to the Establishment Clause…
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…
And also The point of Article 6 wherein no religious test is to be given to hold office.
Better?
From article VI (3rd paragraph)
"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executige and judicial officers, both of the united states and of the several states, shall be bound by oath of affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
It literally couldn’t be any clearer. I guess he’s the shittiest constitutional lawyer ever. But nobody will care. They eat up his arguing from authority fallacy bullshit
They’re lawyers, they are idiots and they twist every word to suit their agenda - that’s what lawyers do.
I don’t want to be that guy, but in fairness, ol’ boy didn’t actually say “biblical republic” (He just wheeled out the old “constitutional Republic” bit).
Doesn’t make this any better, but I want to be sure we criticize with facts.
Amen
Why is it that every time a dumbass steps down from being speaker, you guys manage to find an even bigger wanker? It’s kinda impressive, honestly.
Not me bro. I voted for the other guys.
Pump the bilge pump, get bilge water.
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I admire your optimism.
It’s less optimism & more a concrete trend if you look at the elections that have happened since the GOP destroyed Roe v. Wade.
It’s a risky strategy though.
The Clinton team admitted to elevating Trump for an easy win.
How did that go?
The Clinton team had Clinton on it. If they’d run against anyone other than Trump it would’ve been an even bigger slaughter.
This batshit motherfucker is going to drive so many voters to the Dems. Keep amplifying his insane bullshit.
Surely boosting far-right candidates won’t backfire again
It worked flawlessly for Hilldawg
If we just keep platforming fascists eventually people will start voting for our milquetoast fascist-lite candidates who offer no solutions to any problems!
lol, lmao
This batshit motherfucker is going to drive so many voters to the Dems.
Rich Republicans will continue voting for whoever taxes them the least. Poor Republicans will continue voting to spite their perceived opponents (minorities, gays, “the woke mob”).
Yeah, I don’t think so Tim.
If Trump didn’t drive all the moderate Republicans over to the Democrats, this guy isn’t gonna do it.
Didnt almost very candidate Trump supported in the midterms lose?
No, most of them won because most of them were in uncompetitive districts.
Most of the candidates he endorsed in the few competitive districts that still exist did indeed lose, though.
Normies actually believe what he says.
Look at 4chan, there’s no shortage of idiots who want to believe that porky is our lord and savior and they’re actually the good guys when they go around ruining other people’s lives “for teh lulz”.
I am begging you to stop whinging about “normies”, as well as pretending 4chan is a reasonable representation of the general population when it’s q freaks and reactionary societal outcasts.
So this is the alternative history they want to write eh?
Clown, it was called the “Enlightenment Age” for a reason, people started breaking the chains of organized religion. Yes they were Christians, but they knew enough to not trust religion as a form of government.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in the material world are some of the founding principles, not “death, misery and suffering but maybe get lucky choosing the right god and you’ll be rewarded with eternal paradise…”
If they founded the country on the Bible, we’d live in a theocracy with no elections and no opposition parties.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Founding-Fathers-Deism-and-Christianity-1272214
Britannica covers it pretty well. I guess they’d better, they have been covering shit for longer than we have been a country.
The phrase is “we the people.”
There is nobody else coming to decide things for humans.
Of course, he’s from Louisiana… The south always was the worst part of American, even in colonial times. The US might have abolished slavery much earlier if not for them. There was even a draft of the Declaration of Independence that critiqued the British slave trade as one of the moral failure of the empire and grounds for independence.
White Taliban gonna Taliban
Y’all Qaeda.
Y’all quaeda
Separation of church and state is both the first amendment and a clause in article six of the constitution:
First Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
article six
no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
Thomas Jefferson’s use of the words “separation of church and state” was to explain the purpose of the first amendment specifically but the actual legal text of the constitution is worded broadly enough to cover not only separation of church and state but separation of mosque/synagogue/ect and state rather than singling out Christianity.
the actual legal text of the constitution is worded broadly enough
Ahh, then you just engage in a narrow interpretation of it, hence allowing the combination of church and state.
Christians always try to re-history the world in their favor. They are the most dishonest hypocritical fascists.
Then again, they stole most of what their religion allegedly stands for.It’s in the First Amendment. It’s more important than the Second Amendment. This guy is dangerous.
Yeah. I think what these people mean usually is that the phrase “separation of church and state” isn’t in the Constitution, which is true. They heard that somewhere and repeat it. Maybe that West Wing episode where Charlie does a bit about it.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
Seems pretty clear to me.
When he won the spot he said “good to see our democracy working” or something like that. Fucking shameless lunatic
Well the good news is that just because this fuckbrain said it doesn’t make it true.
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This is literally frightening to read that any American politician would think this. I don’t see how any moderate R could support this train of thought.
There’s no such thing as a moderate R. They voted for Johnson.
Moderate R are an endangered and disappearing species. And even if you find one, you’d be safe to assume they’re “moderate” rather than moderate.
Do they even exist? Bacon voted for Johnson.
The key is realizing that moderate Republicans don’t oppose evangelical wackos either (and Dems, at best, try to have it both ways)
Lots of them think it. The more frightening aspect is the willingness to say it out loud.
Remember when Cheetoh-Man said things out loud and they loved him for it. Eight years later, they feel emboldened to do all kinds of shit that wouldn’t have been on the radar back then. We’re in trouble.
I mean, in essence, he’s not wrong.
Nearly every federal legislator is Christian and votes that way. Some states still (symbolically, since they’re unenforceable) ban atheists from holding public office too, not that you’d even have a chance of winning public office being openly atheist.
In what way do legislators “vote Christian”? Most of them have never read a bible, and even if they did, the bible is wildly contradictory with itself and is full of cruelty.
cruelty
Yeah, you got it.
I mean that used to be true, but I imagine today, when popular culture seems pretty much against the idea of religion
That’s inconsequential when the people are largely powerless.
