• P1r4nha@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    And one of them enjoys unconditional support from the most powerful military in the world. It’s completely asymmetrical.

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      1 year ago

      I wonder why nobody supports the Palestine people, not even the Arab countries around. Perhaps because of all the terrorist attacks?

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        1 year ago

        Or racism. Probably racism. One of the biggest driving factors in checks papers ah, genocide.

        Israel creates terrorists out of Palestinians by the constant chokehold in the form of an apartheid state. Almost like if you abuse a group of people repeatedly over years, eventually, some of them get the whacky idea to hit back.

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          1 year ago

          They attacked Israel one day after it declared independence. With the, ever since, stated goal of destroying Israel. Not accepting any sort of agreement. Pure hate and destruction.

          But Israel are the bad guys because of racism? They are the abusers, because they fight back and don’t want to get destroyed? They are certainly not saints by any means, but what a twisted view is that? That is the type of bullshit like Russia had to attack Ukraine because of NATO.

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            Hey boss, when you have a group of people suddenly declare a holy site and that they’re a new country inside an existing country, that’s usually met with force of “No, fuck off”. Try it in the United States, I can guarantee you it will not last a week. They started the conflict on ‘religious grounds’ and have been pushing Palestinians out of their homes, by force, while also trying to make themselves synonymous with Jews as a whole so suckers like you think they’re the victims. Hell, the United States sent them the Iron Dome infrastructure and they used that protection to do more slaughtering of Palestinians and take more land.

            Yes. Israel are the bad guys for using white fucking phosphorus as a weapon. They aren’t defending themselves. They’re literally stealing homes and land and when Palestinians try to take it back they’re killed. Look at the map of their border for the last couple decades. Absolutely fuck Israel. They not only started this conflict but put Palestinians into an open air prison from which they cannot escape. Look up what an apartheid state is because that’s the chokehold Israel has had over the Palestinians for years upon years. This is not new. Israel has always been the bad guys and will continue to be. This shouldn’t be controversial and it boggles my mind how so many people can be so poorly informed about this conflict and simply take the side of Israel because daddy Biden and the Western countries default to it.

            Israel does not mean all jews. Israel does not get a free genocide pass because Jews faced their own genocide 80 years ago. They do not get to use chemical weapons because they themselves were gassed. They do not get to become the monsters they once fought against.

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              1 year ago

              Israel has always been the bad guys and will continue to be.

              When you put it like that it suggests there’s only one group of bad guys. Hamas clearly have their own very bad guys, as we saw last week. Yes, Israel can be brutal and there’s a history to this, but it’s never going to work to pick just one side and say “You’re the baddies.”

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                No to be clear, there’s only one group of bad guys. You don’t blame victims of abuse for fighting back and as far as I’m concerned this was a proportional response to being ethnically fucking cleansed. Obviously in a civilized world there’d be no need for Hamas but again, Israel is to blame for their entire existence.

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                  1 year ago

                  You don’t think there’s anything bad about murdering hundreds of people at a music festival and in their homes?

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                    1 year ago

                    I think over 60 years of senselessly slaughtering Palestinians over a dogshit reason like religion can cause brutal retaliation in the form of militant extremists. What Hamas did is the fault of Israel. Fuck Israel.