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    So “Fix Civ Bugs” is new code for “Eat the rich” and it’s not even doublespeak.

    Civilization has these bugs where some people can get ultra wealthy and ruin it for everyone. As Devs, we need to fix that.

    Taking bets on how long before discussing fixing Civ bugs gets you banned on r*ddit

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        I honestly don’t get this point of view.

        Then we have to assume the government are happy for the real killer to go free. Then what happens when he kills another CEO and says to you got the wrong man.

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          Why would a killer carry a ghost gun across state lines? It’s designed to be thrown away. The killer obviously had a plan.

          The answer is the killer didn’t. The killer followed the plan and threw away the ghost gun. The police found it and planted it on Luigi.

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              A 3D printed gun absolutely is. They’re not durable at all and would break after a few uses.

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                  The frame, sure. That’s only half the gun though. You need your chamber and barrel to be forged steel, unless I missed some majorly significant news in 3D printing tech (which is possible).

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            he "allegedly’ was going after more people, i would assume it would eventually the sniveling andrew witty head of UHG, and HEMSELY Chairman BOD, both are british. witty worked in glaxo-kline smith before, sound familiar it should. its a biotech company.

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            But… why him? They could have framed literally any convicted felon, and have a much easier time with the jury. Why would they choose an attractive cis white male engineer?

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              Because his social media profile matched the criteria they gave to the AI system for a white, young, male, person with chronic health issues who’s engaged with extremist political content in the past in the desired location.

              It’s all about the data these days. They have systems on systems to monitor us all. Luigi read the Unabomber manifesto for a laugh and left a review. The algorithm identified him as a political extremist and fed his name to the pigs.

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                Reminds me of some of the scenes and themes in the city of Nephilopolis in Dresden Codak.

                (I wonder if Luigi has read that webcomic)

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                Ok, didn’t realise the shooter’s race and gender were apparent from footage. They could have framed someone with a marginalized identity otherwise.

                If he was framed by an algorithm, though, it was a pretty shitty algorithm. Luigi’s political views were all over the place, and I don’t remember any indications of him even supporting or advocating violence. Meanwhile there are still plenty of actual radical leftists on the internet. Was he really the most convincing scapegoat they could find? Pretty sure I could do better by manually scrolling Twitter.

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          Then what happens when he kills another CEO and says to you got the wrong man.

          Call a copycat for the first part, call a liar (and any proof fake) for the second. Helps that the US federal government rejects the concept of “fact” anyway.

          It could lead to some uproar, but maybe that’s a risk they’re willing to take, or simply ignore.

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          the real killer would get blackbagged and extrajudicially executed with no expense spared and no hope of a trial

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    Remember then the media was calling him a Techbro instead of a tech worker? Yeah, he was never a Techbro.

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      They tried everything… It didn’t work

      Bootlickers eventually fell inline but anyone paying attention saw right through the bullshit.

      Anyone with basic vidya game exp knows that you re going the right way when you get this many enemies having a melt down on teevee and socials

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      Maybe I misunderstand the context of the term but I never viewed them as mutually exclusive. There are toxic “bro” type devs who are still actually good devs (doesn’t excuse being an ass though). I never viewed it as meaning someone who doesn’t code “for real” but maybe I’m misusing it.

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        For me, “Techbro” exclusively refers to people who repackage existing ideas and sell them as an innovation to VC investors. Think of how many techbros keep reinventing trains and boats, but worse.

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          I picture those who didn’t embrace geek culture or esthetics, leaning more towards jock and fraternity culture instead, but who saw money in computers.

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            Arrogant, posturing douchebags that don’t understand the technology they’re involved in and are unwilling to learn. Any “work” that’s done is by actual tech workers or tools creates by them.

            The tech bro is only in it for money and “prestige”

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            That’s how I’ve always interpreted it. Specifically about toxic jocks though, nothing inherently wrong with enjoying sports.

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              I felt the same, and I want sports to be a vehicle for teaching people about fitness, and teamwork. I am not sure I still do, it so often dissolves into toxic competition, self harm, injury, violence, riots and a general us against them attitude.

              I hope people get good things from sports and avoid the bad things.

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        I’ve always seen it as meaning the type of douche who would pitch anything to YC

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        tech bros are people like musk, zuckerberg, a little bezos, altman,etc. same goes for cryptobros, people that peddle the actual crypto, but are very bad at it or they arnt even investing in it themselves. i know someone who was peddling obscure one as actual success.

        gates, and Jobs is another.

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    Elon Musk the fat roller pays people to get him high scores in games for clout.

    Luigi Mangioni fixes 25% of ~~all ~~ UI bugs in Civilization 6.

    The difference couldn’t be clearer.

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      What was inconsistent?

      From what I gather, if the allegations are true, then Luigi never claimed to be knowledgeable enough to have solutions but recognized general issues.

      This would, presumably, absolve him of inconsistencies since he didn’t claim to be the arbiter of truth or an expert.

      This is a genuine question btw, I’m realizing I don’t really know much about the manifest or his views beyond health insurance companies being evil. So I’m curious to hear what you mean.

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        Unless his lawyer has stated he wrote the manifesto, we can assume it was planted.

        Innocent until proven guilty

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          Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, doesn’t track for public opinion, it’s the whole opinion part, but yeah we should give him some benefit of the doubt, he did us a solid.

          The manifesto was out there, but not entirely incongruent with his … was it a substack? I read it off archive.org and it was quite old

          We don’t know that the manifestio was his, but I’d say he had enough other stuff out there to say his views wained toward strange.

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            That really just makes him an easy fall guy.

            Like, affluent enough to have the free time, visibly disillusioned with the system, on pain management from a back injury, similar hoodie/ backpack style of dress day to day.

            Like, this is a big enough problem that there is an incentive to pick a random person of interest out of a hat and fabricate some quick evidence to implicate. Was the gun found in the manifesto bag the same gun that shot the guy?

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              i’d like to say we’ll see how it goes, but honestly I don’t hold much hope for a fair trial.

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        I was under the impression that he was a right-leaning crypto bro that saw a bad CEO and “solved the problem”. I don’t think he even considered the material conditions of capitalism or the fact that we’re in a class war. I think he was close though. Kind of like becoming a lefty without actually talking to any lefties.

        In the manifesto I saw he basically apologized to the FBI for causing all the trouble. Letting them know that he acted alone.

        He definitely wasn’t the type of person I would imagine a CEO killer to be.

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          He is probably to young for that, but when bitcoin was first presented it was quite popular among leftist, who hoped it would destroy the dollar hegemony.

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          In the manifesto I saw he basically apologized to the FBI for causing all the trouble.

          That felt very out of place imho

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            Ehh, maybe… I figure if it was a plant I would expect it to say something like “I trust the FBI to do the right thing” or “Law enforcement is good”.

            We likely won’t know for a while if at all.

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      The best outcome of this situation is jury nullification. If the jury nullifies, we’ll have proven the law does not prosecute heroic deeds of this caliber. It would be the biggest blow to capitalism in generations.

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        “he who saves his country has committed no crimes”

        i threw up in my mouth a bit quoting trump, but throwing their words back at them is always satisfying.

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            The guy who tried to take over Europe was arrested and banished (to run a tropical island, so like most rich and powerful was given a super kushy “punishment” that’s more like a forced retirement), returned and tried to take over Europe a second time and was banished again (this time to an actually unpleasant island off the coast of Africa under active guard) might not be the best person for trump to be quoting in this context…

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              During his banishment to Corsica, Napoleon fully modernized the island by updating and standardizing education, road building and performed other administrative duties in the government.

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        i love that too, but they will be anticipating jury nullification, and they have stopped people from doing it before.

        i just don’t trust anything abut the american justice system any more.

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          Once the jurors are selected, we need to start a social media blitz in New York around jury nullification. Signs on street corners. Murals. Chanting crowds outside the courthouse on the court dates.

          We can do this 💪

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            i agree, but keep in mind that if the DOJ knows what they’re up against, they will pull some underhanded shit to make a conviction unavoidable. don’t doubt them for a second.

            i honestly have no faith and would rather see us organizing the things that don’t interact with the gears of government at all.

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            Aren’t jurors for high profile cases typically secluded during the trial? Would they even be on social media or in a position to be out in public much?

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              They still have to enter the building, and the courts have specifically found that holding signs signs and handing out pamphlets about jury nullification in public space outside of courthouse are 100% protected speech.

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              You’re right there’s no chance they won’t be secluded on a case like this.

              I don’t know the extent of that though. They probably don’t sleep in the same building so they need to transit between places. Do they use no windows so they can’t see signs? What about hoods, just as effective as no glass!

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                Nah, it happens for regular trials. For example, Trump’s felony trial in New York last year. The jurors were all sequestered for that.

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            I am in Canada. I would go, but I don’t want CBP to be asking me any questions. Last time I visited the US they searched my car for no reason. I have been interrogated by them before (you can probably tell by my username I am of Lebanese descent), but I have a feeling that the Trumpian bullshit might empower them to detain me for no fucking reason.

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          The have been arrested white Canadians for improper documentation and holding them for months with no charge or even telling them why they have been arrested and detained.

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        I have been shouting this from the rooftops since I heard what happened. So many people think you have to punish someone if they are proven guilty… not true in the USA. The jury can decide he is not guilty for whatever reason they want. They can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he did it and the jury can still let him go. So many people don’t know this.

        Also a great way to get out of jury duty is to mention this during the selection process, they will boot you 100% of the time if you know this.

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          The problem is that if you try to get on a jury to do this then you’re usually probably committing perjury. They typically ask questions somewhat related to it without outright using the phrase.

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            Definitely true. I would perjure myself to get Luigi off the hook though. He is a hero not a criminal. He had the balls to kill that piece of shit, I can have the balls to tell a white lie to get him out.

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          thats why MSMs are so tight lipped about the case, even if nothings going on right now, they arnt say sht in order to “bias” people into believing otherwise.

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        There is no such thing as jury nullification as a court decision though. Jury nullification is the Jury agreeing that they didn’t see nothing. If they say he did it but they aren’t convicting that may very well be grounds for a mistrial. I suspect that the prosecution will argue that it was a mistrial regardless of whether the Jury nullifies or genuinely is unconvinced beyond a reasonable doubt.