no need to write an essay or anything
some libs and baby leftists are kinda baffled by the trump banter here and don’t know what’s serious and what’s irony
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Nah he should be executed.
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He highlights how monstrous the US has always been, and liberals can’t stand that so they pretend he is an abberation while communists recognise presidents have always been this way.
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He do be funny though.
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I would say 100% of Hexbear posters believe Trump should be immediately summarily executed. In the mean time, though, he’s a great comedic subject.
no more half measures walter
I haven’t even seen the show, and I’ve maybe heard the audio one time, but I see your comments so often that “no more half measures Walter” in a deep gravelly voice is now a common thing in my internal monologue lmao
Honestly I just looked up the original scene now, and I’m kinda disappointed that the line wasn’t delivered in nearly the same way as I expected.
I didn’t like the joke at first because I never saw the show. But after a week or two something changed now it makes me laugh really hard like half the time.
It’s like how a wall filled with graffiti dicks is just lowbrow middle school humor, but how seeing that there’s more dicks when you turn the corner elevates it into meta-ironic comedic genius
If this is not your opinion of Trump and every living (or dead) American president then Hexbear is not the instance for you, folks.
To anyone in future linking this comment or thread as evidence that we are not
supporters, also note that this here is the second highest up-beared comment on the site.I think a lot of the confusion comes from how people here derive amusement from his stupidity, whereas with Biden and Obama the contempt was more open (because they weren’t clownishly, openly stupid, just malicious or more run of the mill incompetent)
thanks for responding to this, it’s more than I deserve lol
along with every US president and anyone that perpetuates imperialism
I wouldn’t she’d a tear if Trump tripped and broke his neck, or if he finally got devoured by his son Bannon or someone Merced him, but if I am to answer who I think would lead to the best situation globally between Trump and Biden, I’d pick trump any day. The man is incredibly incompetent and isolationist. Couldn’t even coup Venezuela.
It’s so outrageously non-materialist to think the US’s grip in Latin America is weakening because of Trump, and not because of the line decline of empire, China as a countervailing force, and the resilience of the Latin American people putting to use the lessons learned from prior US meddling. Biden also hasn’t done much of anything in LA because the the US generally is no longer capable of it. The president isn’t planning this shit personally. They aren’t even deciding to do it or not. The only choices they get to make are erratic single strikes. Like Trump killing Soleimani and nearly starting war with Iran. No biggie, though, right? Orange man funny!
I don’t think that South America is seeing leftism bloom because of Trump, I think they’re seeing it because of the work of south Americans. I think the south Americans work was easier under Trump - As you yourself said “the decline of Empire”. He was much worse at administering the American empire, which accelerated it’s collapse.
Trump killing Soleimani was wrong and I don’t think I’ve at any point said anything to the contrary? It was also something that wasn’t widely supported, which fucked up soft power further. The war didn’t escalate because of Iran, and Iran was able to keep tensions low because Trump was an incompetent buffoon incapable of whipping the rest of the west and the media in line.
“the decline of Empire”. He was much worse at administering the American empire, which accelerated it’s collapse.
How on earth you think the president meaningfully administers the empire, I have no idea. The empire is collapsing because of long historical trends and the inefficiency of its structures. Not because of Trump.
Again I don’t think it declines because of a single person. I do however think that the executive person has a lot of influence on how the us manages. There is a reason so many staffers were freaking out because key positions were unmanned more than a year after Trumps inauguration. They were freaking out because he did not follow security briefings, because he mishandled diplomatic engagements and because his cabinet was constantly shuffling. Pretending like these thing were inconsequential seems “ubmaterialistic” to me.
I disagree, I think we should give him the Puyi treatment for no other reason than it would be really funny
At the absolute least he should be truman show’d
We’ll put him in a large terrarium where he’s told he’s still president as he is subjected to more and more bizare staged scenarios just to see what he’ll do. Like one day we just replace his entire staff with people who look similar. One day we just let fifty dogs in to the white house. We tell him he has to open. Diplomatic channels with the deep ones who have emerged from the pacific. Just to see what he does. The man only watches one tv channel it wouldn’t be hard to control his entire subjective experience.
This is a brilliant idea and it should go down in the archives to be used when the revolution eventually has to deal with a former capitalist head of state.
I’m really upset I can’t watch this
Have a series of ports hidden throughout the office so we can poke him with a stick every so often.
The whole thing is built on a series of hydraulic pistons and for a dollar you can use a joystick to shake his cage and watch what he does.
I am 100% puyipilled because reforming arch-capitalists and political types into good communists is infinitely crueler than granting them the sweet release of death with their beliefs and ideals intact.
It’s like, if the goal is the collapse of America, he’s probably the best bet yeah? If shit collapses he’ll probably get executed anyway by his own base of psychopaths.
if the goal is the collapse of America, he’s probably the best bet yeah?
This assumes that fascism isn’t effective as capitalism’s immune response, but I’d argue it is.
Its not. It only heigthens the contradictions. Take it from someone who was born in a corporatist state. That type of regime is extreamly fragile.
The fascist regime itself is inherently unstable. It’s not meant to last. It’s meant to stop socialism. It always collapses back into liberal capitalism.
Yeah, but the competentish fascist we were afraid of turned out to be Robinette Brandon. Covid ended, wars accelerated, he’s doing that faux-populism thing, new levels of state persecution of minorities, elections looking less legitimate than ever, jingoistic nationalism.
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Trump is useful in the sense that he highlights a lot of things leftist thought about the Presidency but libs are too propagandized to see. There has never been a good, smart, well-mannered President who genuinely wants to lead to help everyone. They were all Trump. They were all corrupt, egotistical, murderous, self-interested, and dangerous. To the most marginalized of society, they were all Trump. Now the people who never had to look at it that way has to and they’re upset. It’s good that they’re upset.
All US presidents are bad. Even Lincoln, even FDR, even Kennedy.
Vote Trump to make America great again.
Vote Trump to destroy the American Empire.Yes, as a non-American I unironically support Trump over Biden because he is the best chance at the US collapsing and his incompetence keeps the worst of US imperialism at bay.
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I actually unironically do so. Nothing better for the world than that terrorist shithole collapsing into a civil war.
No, but the guy is funny sometimes, so we have various emotes and stuff that reference famous lines or bits from him. The perception that some lemmy users have of this place being genuinely “pro-Trump” is really confusing to me – it’s no more “pro-Trump” than an SNL bit mocking him, although hopefully more funny (as in, funny at all – thank god for the writer’s strike sparing us from more SNL).
As a general rule for this community: If you’re a baby leftist or left leaning lib and if you can’t tell if something is ironic then it’s probably ironic. If you’re a right winger your brain is way too broken to get anything out of this community and also furthermore go fuck yourself.
Trump’s greatest sin for liberals isn’t racism or disdain for Democracy, Bush has him beat by a long shot on both counts, his greatest sin for them is a lack of manners. We laugh at Trump because he is a visible and omnipresent symbol of sociopolitical decline, and also because he is a completely hilarious creature. Maybe the most pro-Trump position on here is an ambient desire for a hard left pro-labor candidate to embody some of his mannerisms and mock the DNC Managerial Class into submission like Trump did with the Republicans, but nobody actually likes any of his policies or ideas.
Short answer: Absolutely not dont be so fucking stupid
Long answer: Still absolutely not and if a lib knows so little about socialism, intersectionality, minority struggle, social justice that they think leftists would be voting trump (or any Liberal politician) then they need to log off and start genuinely educating themselves because that’s levels of stupidity that would make a grade schooler cringe.
Libs and the people regurgitating whatever the news tells them on the fediverse LITERALLY don’t engage with reality outside of what they are taught to believe by MSM.
There’s a lot of irony in here and trump is funny because he shows American politics for what the left have said it was for decades; a corrupt, failing, nepotism ran cabal BY BEING that exact thing and failing so hard he shows everyone like Pelosi, AOC, Biden etc to be just as corrupt and manipulative (admittedly more subtle) as Trump.
Examples include AOC turning her back on her values and defending Israeli genocide of Palestine, Biden and his many corruption scandals, Pelosi insider trading and weaponising gay marriage rights to manipulate the gay vote.
Another difference is libs think these are all one of mistakes or one off people and not like a direct and systemic problem with out current system. Like ALL of the Democrats and all of the GOP engage in the same corruption and cronyism to benefit themselves and the system that allows them to live like royalty while the working class starve. Like the pigs it’s not a case of one bad apple, the entire orchard is rotten.
So yeah we hate trump, but we ironically enjoy him because he accidentally shows the American political system for the corrupt vile state apparatus it is by perfectly weaponising it to benefit his wacky stupid bs.
Final thought, if the American system is such a fail that a meandering idiot like trump can weaponise its failings to protect himself from literally pedophilia and treason, then just think what the rest of them hide or get away with.
As I listed above they’ve all had career ending (in a normal world) controversies and the machine has worked its magic to let them keep making decisions that benefit exclusively the rich in turn benefitting the status quo and system.
I support trump but only because i hate America
Those actually wondering this are less serious in their disdain for Trump than anyone here. The lemmy libs are so deeply in bed with him and what he represents on every level that they need performative assurances.
Of course not. I just dont fall into the illusion that he is any different or better than Biden (or vice versa), because they both serve the same ruling class interests and American Imperialism. I’m also not afraid to laugh at Trump and I find him unintentionally hilarious, which a lot of libs confuse that with me actually liking him.
unironically
what does that even mean? Irony fascism lol
Lmao what dumbass would think communists support a right wing capitalist like Trump?
Here’s a tip, not liking one corrupt capitalist doesn’t mean we support the other corrupt capitalist.
Aha but you support China who we know are secret capitalists and repressive which is why they censor and crack down on any people or literature that express anti-capitalist ideology and have banned the communist party
It’s as if they think it’s some black or whit thing. They cannot imagine an alternative to the current system
