For example, it feels like fans of other teams (that have nothing to do with the Bills) will hate on Josh Allen as much/more than I did Tom Brady.

This is probably confirmation bias, like your take definitely is, but from my perspective, this is absolutely no fucking way in hell Josh Allen gets more hate than Tom Fucking Brady did from 31 other fanbases.

Didn’t Tyreek go for almost 200 with Teddy just last season?

Tua is playing really well but I legit just do not see how you can argue he’s MVP over Lamar, Pat, Hurts, or even Purdy. Hell, I think Tyreek has a better argument for it.

Leave it to Aaron Rodgers to say “talent across the league is down” but dumber.

That seemed like an uncharacteristically noodle arm throw, surprised he didn’t make the end zone from there.

Marcus Trufant

Lol

Our blocking is so bad, he’s stepping up when the pressure comes from the edge like you’re supposed to but there’s zero contain or seal so the edge just cuts backs and sacks him. Every time.

This flip is so funny to see. The whole idiotic “Brady or Belichick” stuff began almost exclusively to handwave away Brady’s success by fans of other QBs. For years and years, it was used to disparage Brady’s accomplishments as a QB and, ya know, iF mAnNiNg hAd bELicHicK he woulda won it 10!

I adamantly defended Brady at the time because players play. You can be the best coach in the world, but if your player doesn’t jibe with what you’re doing, you’re not going to win an insane amount of championships and compete for two decades straight.

I’m going to adamantly defend Belichick’s role in the dynasty because writing him off now is as stupid as writing off Tom Brady then. There’s valid criticism of how he’s running the team now but you can’t take away the program he built around Brady. I do think there are elements that are essentially tall tales (the Pats defenses are largely overrated around here outside or 2004 and 2019 and a few others) but you don’t win with those not-amazing defenses without the discipline, situational football, and adjustments that you can’t attribute to anyone else but Belichick. In fact, the OP is using the extremely flawed metric of defensive scoring to rank defenses.

They were amazing complements to each other – criticize Bill’s current moves and intransigence and fruitless nepotism now if you want, that’s fair, but let’s not revise history.

idk why his fans are obsessed with separating the 2

This separation wasn’t a “Brady fans” thing – this was almost contrived by fans of other great QBs, particularly fans of Peyton Manning, almost exclusively to diminish Brady’s greatness. Until Brady went off and won a SB on his own, the main use of the separation was “well, Brady had Belichick, Rodgers/Manning would have won 10 with him”.

In my day, nobody ran around giving Walsh any substantial credit for Montana. Favre wasn’t s product of Mike Holmgren. Certainly nobody was calling Manning a product of Tony Dungy, who was a SB winning head coach before Manning.

What’s happening with Belichick right now happens with plenty of great coaches. Belichick’s rebuilding seasons in the past were often absurd 10+ win season and it’s more a function of a fan base that doesn’t understand that. It’s got more to do with personnel decisions in the last 4 seasons more than anything to do with Brady.