Founder of European Graphic Novels+, Aug '23 on Lemm.ee. With super-gratitude towards some ‘Blazing & Rimming’ Dudes for enabling our move, in which now we can abide. :D

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  • Especially since the two genres you mentioned are not opposing in any way

    I’ll give you what GPT5.1 came up with a little while ago for me. NOTE: I try to use it very carefully (mostly for enhanced searches), so I have a fair amount of confidence that it’s ‘in the ballpark’ here:

    was Gustav Klimt considered an Impressionist? if not, then why not?

    Gustav Klimt is not considered an Impressionist. He is classified primarily as a Symbolist and as a leading figure of the Vienna Secession, an art movement that sought to break away from academic traditions and develop a more decorative, expressive, and psychologically charged visual language. Below is the precise rationale:

    1. Different Core Objectives
      Impressionism focused on capturing fleeting sensory impressions—light, atmosphere, color, and the immediate visual experience. Klimt’s work, by contrast, was oriented toward symbolic meaning, eroticism, allegory, and psychological depth. His images are not records of optical perception.

    2. Stylistic Divergence
      Impressionist painters used quick, broken brushwork and avoided strong outlines. Klimt developed a highly decorative, flat, patterned surface, often incorporating gold leaf, mosaic-like structures, and rigid contours. His work is fundamentally design-driven, not perception-driven.

    3. Use of Ornament and Abstraction
      Impressionism avoids ornamentation; Klimt embraces it. His “Golden Phase” is defined by dense ornamentation, Byzantine influences, and abstraction integrated with figuration.

    4. Movement Affiliation
      Klimt co-founded the Vienna Secession in 1897, which aligned more with Symbolism, Art Nouveau (Jugendstil), and early Modernism, not with the French Impressionist circle of the 1870s–1880s.

    5. Subject Matter Differences
      Impressionists favored landscapes, everyday scenes, and outdoor light. Klimt focused on mythology, allegorical themes, erotic female figures, and psychological portraiture. His orientation was conceptual, not observational.

    In short:
    Klimt was not an Impressionist because his aims, techniques, and aesthetic philosophy diverged sharply from Impressionism. He belongs to Symbolism and the decorative modern movements of Central Europe rather than to the optical naturalism of the Impressionists.


    So I’m with you in spirit (I love the idea of things melding in to each other), but in the art world, it looks like there are some fairly sharp, distinctive differences between the two genres, FWIW.