• Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    It’s not a view I think you hold, it’s an example of how I think you don’t adhere to your ‘she wasn’t capable of consenting’ argument because I hope you agree that Jenkinson and Ratcliffe were able to ‘consent’ to their own actions at a similar age.

    And if you don’t think she can consent, and is actually a victim in all this, why do you want her gaoled?

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      4 months ago

      @Deceptichum I had never heard of those people and had to google them. I… really don’t want to deep dive into true crime right now so I don’t hold an opinion on whether they can be sucessfuly rehabbed but the point I made elsewhere about child soldiers applies in general - it’s a difficult area to deal with, but Western countries need to step up.

      My guiding principle here is that I believe human rights are inalienable.

      I’m arguing against the idea that there is anything a 15 year old can do that strips them of their human rights.

      And it’s ironic that if she’d just been trafficked to Rotherford or something half the people deriving enjoyment from her current status would have had a different response.

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        4 months ago

        She voluntarily chose to go join ISIS after watching videos of people being beheaded, you make it sound like she was kidnapped off of the street and shipped to the middle east against her will.