India has some social issues comparable to the rest of the industrialized world, for sure, but on a completely different scale because of their long arduous history of marginalization and castes. China is an expansionist dictatorship which is a whole other animal.
China took over Hong Kong by means of corruption and military force, attempted but failed to do the same thing with Taiwan. They’ve been raiding Tibet and tearing down temples, rounding monks up like cattle. They’ve even been having constant border disputes with India. That’s all in the last decade. Imagine taking over multiple other nations in a 4 year period and not thinking that is overly aggressive for modern international relationships. Hell, they’ve even been having border disputes with the damn oceans: China landfilled the sea between Hong Kong and Borneo for military use and to gain territory in a contested region. They’ve recently been accused of overfishing with Cyanide in the Philippines, as well.
USA is reserve currency for a huge chunk of the world, they have to all fail with their local currency first, you need a common ground for international trade - the US is still a reserve currency because oil mostly.
So you think the civil collapse of two governments with over 2.8 billion citizens collectively would be a good thing because it would make improve the logistics of trade? /gen
This is a coal mine canary of the future of china, civil unrest and wealth inequity for everyone!
So exactly the same as the rest of the industrialized world?
India has some social issues comparable to the rest of the industrialized world, for sure, but on a completely different scale because of their long arduous history of marginalization and castes. China is an expansionist dictatorship which is a whole other animal.
Expansionist?
China took over Hong Kong by means of corruption and military force, attempted but failed to do the same thing with Taiwan. They’ve been raiding Tibet and tearing down temples, rounding monks up like cattle. They’ve even been having constant border disputes with India. That’s all in the last decade. Imagine taking over multiple other nations in a 4 year period and not thinking that is overly aggressive for modern international relationships. Hell, they’ve even been having border disputes with the damn oceans: China landfilled the sea between Hong Kong and Borneo for military use and to gain territory in a contested region. They’ve recently been accused of overfishing with Cyanide in the Philippines, as well.
China and India will be first!
Why are you so enthusiastic about it lmao?
because maybe it will be enough of a warning for our owning classes that we won’t have to personally get our hands bloody
I don’t think China or india collapsing would make American billionaires scared. That’s a lot of new people to exploit
“2.8B people put under severe unrest is good because it might improve my conditions that are already better than them”
USA is reserve currency for a huge chunk of the world, they have to all fail with their local currency first, you need a common ground for international trade - the US is still a reserve currency because oil mostly.
So you think the civil collapse of two governments with over 2.8 billion citizens collectively would be a good thing because it would make improve the logistics of trade? /gen
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Yeah I got that but I’m trying to determine whether or not you think that’s a good thing or a bad thing.