• Apathy Tree@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        9 months ago

        That is from such a long time ago.

        How have things not improved??? It’s been mumbles years! What the fuck are we doing??

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          Americans talk big about standing up to corporations but don’t actually do it. We don’t join unions and we vote for corporate-approved "moderate” candidates in primaries, who then veto any attempt at making life even slightly better for workers.

          Just look at what happened in ny recently. We couldn’t even get a very basic protection against non-competes without some “moderate” shill vetoing it because it cuts into some slug’s profits. And that shill is a Democrat btw.

          Americans are cowed. People joke about guillotines but Americans can’t even vote for pro-labor candidates without acting like it’s communism. There won’t be any violent resolution here, there aren’t even labor protests .

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            Many of my friends are very left-wing, eat the rich types, yet still have piles of Amazon boxes at their door because they automatically use it to buy everything. Unless it’s convenient, change will never happen.

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      They feel they’re prepared this time.

      The owners have gotten so much better at propagandizing the peasants from birth with the media they own and the curriculum they inform having long captured state and federal governments that there are literally millions of poor victims of this system that will fight to defend it against their own interests.

      True believers who kill themselves working for shareholders who would never even bother to learn their name, let alone let them into their country clubs, deluded into literally believing anything but this rigged market capitalist hellscape must be an evil marxist, Leninist, socialist, communist word salad of terms they don’t understand at all but were indoctrinated to hate and fear anyway blindly.

      The owner’s numbers are tiny. Their doting, self-hating class traitors begging for senpai oligarch’s love that will never come are what prevents what you propose.

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      Your target for non-violent revolutionary activity is the person three levels up from you in your org chart.

      If you don’t have someone three levels above you, your objective is to quit, and blow the whistle on anyone above you.

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        PACs, the best thing that ever happened to wealthy control over politics (from the douchey ownership class perspective.)

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      Nobody campaigns on eliminating PAC donations and criminalizing bribery.

      Except me. Elect me and I will fix this shit with an iron fist. You are being taxed with no representation.

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    If the NLRB is defanged then we’re back to just striking. Which uhhhh wasn’t good for the workers or the company. But fuck it. The Workers won last time and they’ll win again.

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    If they’re going to argue they have protected rights like a US citizen then when they break the law they can go to jail like a human. Financial crimes, 6 month time out for Amazon. Worker dies because Amazon refuses a break, 25 year timeout.

    The nerve of these fuckers.

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    Burn both of those companies down and we won’t lose anything of value (yes, many sites will go down because of aws, but just fucking migrate it)

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      Lol, just migrate it… Like it’s that simple. Many companies have gotten vendor locked in to specific cloud providers and the services they offer. You can’t just flip a switch and move to Azure or somewhere else. Assuming other clouds even have the capacity to take on all of AWS clients all at once… And it’s not just websites, many government and even military servers are in AWS these days.

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        Truth. Whenever I’ve asked an enterprise architect whether the company should really be vendor-locked to the point of using proprietary cloud-native services they say it will never matter. Tech workers think in terms of the two or three years they stay in each role.

        (Amazon and MS are nothing on the extent to which Oracle owns you if you invite the Devil in.)

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          I work for Red Hat, we’re doing our best to fight that kind of vendor lock in. Hybrid cloud and expand out to whichever cloud you want. The vendor lock in is serious out there.

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        All the important military servers are secured. We could do with losing all the PowerPoints with a bad animated mascot telling you that you do in fact have to stop at a stop light.

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          Them is all of us. Things like Centers for Medicare and Medicaid run in AWS. Just about every service the government provides probably has some piece on AWS. Turning off AWS would not end well.

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            The physical servers would change ownership and the AWS standard between them would slowly diverge. Same kind of thing as the baby bells.

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                Well yeah but when they were broken up one of the fearmongering things was the physical infrastructure. There’s no reason to believe this would be any different. Just hopefully with less monopoly a couple decades down the line.

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                  This is a little different than a phone company. But you’re right that breaking them up would be the much more sane thing to do rather than shutting them down. It’s not easy to migrate servers, it is easy to change who you’re paying.

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            Yes. We could have had reusable rockets 30 years ago if we funded NASA properly. We chose not to. Now, decades later we got a private company managed by man-children accountable to no one burning billions and billions in play money exploding shit in a manner that NASA would never be allowed to do until they finally, by some miracle, got a reusable rocket, and we’re all acting like “omg how amazing.” Give me a break. Not to mention that now we just have a bunch of trash in space.

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                But I don’t think it has changed for the better. Private industry can now cheaply and easily put trash in space, and they have been at a stunning rate. Literally nothing good can come of this at all.

                This isn’t about Musk. If Bernie Sanders owned SpaceX I’d be saying the same thing. I do not want private citizens to have the power to launch objects into space. Period. Unless those objects are themselves and the target is the sun.

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    People should start protesting in front of these billionaires houses only then they will learn

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      Nice can, but they are on my shit list for not making it clear that their drinks are sweetened with agave nectar.

      Also, that’s kind of rich from a company with a $700 million valuation, which is only going to grow and will likely make the founder a billionaire. He’s already very wealthy.

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        It says agave on the front of the can. What’s the problem?

        I’m asking because I don’t understand, but do agree with everything else that you’re saying.