• FiveMacs@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    We are not short changing anyone. A tip isn’t a guaranteed income from working.

    Also, it’s halrious that you agreed with the previous person, then instantly renegged and said the opposite and went back to he same garbage you said before.

    Tipping culture is wrong. Never tip, stop begging.

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      9 months ago

      I’m not contradicting myself. All of my points can coexist.

      1. If you don’t want to tip, fine, stop tipping.
      2. If you go out to eat, tip your staff.
      3. If you want the tipping culture to change, stop going out.

      You’re correct, a tip is not guaranteed income, that’s the entire problem. I don’t understand why what I’m saying is so hard to understand. The company will only make up for lost tips for a waiter for so long before they’re fired. Continuing to go out to eat and then not tipping changes nothing, it just makes the waitstaff’s lives harder.

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        9 months ago

        If everyone today stopped tipping, do you think companies would suddenly begin to pay more? I’d wager that wage increases start with the waiting staff, and ends there. Why are you pushing the responsibility onto the customer?

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          9 months ago

          If everyone today stopped tipping, do you think companies would suddenly begin to pay more?

          They won’t… And this is the point… Whether customers tip or don’t doesn’t matter. If we all collectively stopped tipping wait staff would still be the ones hit. It takes the wait staff collectively quitting/protesting to cause restaurants to change their ways… Or management of those restaurants. The consumer in this case means nothing.

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          9 months ago

          I’m not pushing the responsibility anywhere. If anything, I think it’s the government’s responsibility to take the tipping loophole out of minimum wage laws.

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      9 months ago

      The hostility is entirely unnecessary. If you eat out and don’t tip, the only person you’re hurting is the person you claim to want to help. If you can’t tip, eat at home. If you can, then do so while still fighting for better workers rights. It’s really not a difficult concept to grasp.

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        9 months ago

        But this is specific to sit down restaurants. Do I tip when all I receive is counter service? Or take out?

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          9 months ago

          If you’re picking it up yourself, I think tipping is unnecessary. If it’s being delivered, I always make a point to save enough for a tip.