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      Every pandemic that ended up as a seasonal disease is still active.

      You can try denying they ended in this way, but you will end up with an unusable language because most things are technically not over as they had a continuation in some form.

      Almost every sickness you get infected with had its hayday of mass genocide. It will die down and then occasionally reoccur.

      Dont worry about it, they are mutating heck of a lot. 2020 pandemic is a lot different than the current situation is with the completely different strains we now have.

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        The current strains of COVID are more infectious and more dangerous than the 2019 strain was. Up until the end of 2023, the only reason we didn’t hear about it was because the vaccines were effective against them (and the corporations want to pretend that it’s been over for several years now). The latest strain is resistant to vaccinations from before the end of September, and the US just saw the second biggest spike in COVID cases since 2019, with an estimated peak at 2 million daily new infections on the 11th.

        Just because big businesses say that the pandemic is over so everybody goes back to work and buying stuff doesn’t mean that the pandemic ended. There are plenty of immune compromised people who never left quarantine because they can’t with COVID still around. The rest of society simply decided that their deaths were less important than going back to drinking in crowded bars.

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      I mean, the pandemic has been over for over a year.

      Covid is just endemic now like the flu. It’s seasonal and is never going to go away.

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      I’ll be honest, even without Trump most Americans proved they were too stupid or stubborn to follow instructions, so he didn’t really need to do anything to slap the whole US with more infections.

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          Unfortunately his strategy was much more cartoonishly evil. By making it so taking the pandemic seriously was a partisan issue, he could make it so people voting in person were disproportionately likely to be his base. Then set up some regulations to prevent states from counting mail in votes until in person voting is done to manufacture a narrative that they’re less legitimate and try to stop the count.

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    Reported Dec 31, 2019, eh?

    I was terminally online during that time, and some reports of a truly awful pneumonia in China were going around as early as mid-November. It was definitely known to be a major outbreak by early December. A lot of the early reports were taken down; just CCCP CCP doing CCCP CCP things.

    Edit: whoops thought it had that extra C in there. Should probably use CPC anyway.

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      Yeah, I remember seeing TikToks about it way before December. Lots of “there are a LOT of people sick in China right now with pneumonia, and it has actually started to hurt their economy. It’ll eventually make its way over here” types of things. The warning signs were there, for those who cared to look.

      I mostly saw it on the finance side of tiktok, since lots of financial analysts were like “uhh this shit could crash the economy if it spreads.”

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      When is the earliest heath officials reported it though? That paragraph doesn’t disagree with your memory.

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        Considering there were quarantines in December, I’m pretty sure health officials were in the know. Though official international reporting may not have happened until Dec 31.

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          Well yeah. If people all over the world knew weeks earlier, obviously the health officials knew. But if they didn’t report it before, that doesn’t disagree with the textbook.

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      I was living in Oklahoma and I remember some of the local media mentioning this “coronavirus” thing that was spreading in China. I also remember people joking about Corona (the beer) being suddenly less popular.

      Then in February, March, and April it getting more and more serious, and this is about the time that people started claiming it wasn’t real, and if it was, it wasn’t that bad, and if it was, then it was from a chinese lab bent on taking down the US…

      April-May had me re-adjusting my previous opinions of people around me that I thought were rational.

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      I remember I first heard about it a few days earlier, just after Christmas

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      I was working in the hospital at the time from a big-picture perspective and it seemed pneumonia cases were already spiking in the US during December 2019. My sister and my coworker both came down with a nasty “pneumonia” during then as well.

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      Vape lung was pandemic in the states in 2019, even in non-vapers like my dad as well, and then disappeared post-covid?

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          In 2019 there was an outbreak of a respiratory condition called EVALI and commonly referred to as ‘vape lung.’

          Reported cases sharply dropped off in 2020, despite an increase in vape sales.

          I just think it’s interesting, is all.

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              Vitamin E and MCT oil are the most heavily cited causes and you can still get cartridges made with both.

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            I suspect the dumbfounded reply you received was because one expected the word ‘epidemic’ to be used instead.

            ‘pandemic’ usually is taken to mean it has spread across several international boundaries. ‘pan,’ meaning ‘all.’

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    They say history is written by the victors. I wonder who wrote this.

    Inb4 ‘Probably Victor’

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        Guessing you mean in your post-2001 books, but this comment has me imagining a Black Mirror style thing where there’s this future prediction in everyone’s school books that all the teachers refuse to talk about.

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        Did you know it changed everything? Because that’s what we were told regularly until about 2010 or so when pretty much everyone had stopped buying it.

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              It didn’t change everything, but it did change some things. We still take our shoes off to get through airport security, for example.

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                Airport security is by far the most identifiable change for me personally. We never used to take shoes or belts off at airport security, we never walked through backscatter x-ray machines, we could carry liquids onto the plane and you could see your family or friends off at the departure gate even if you didn’t have a boarding pass.

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          That’s more media than school. But my understanding of it is that it kind of did. Mostly for people who frequent airports and Muslims than anyone else though

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      I was in elementary school when 9/11 happened. My brother is 6 years younger, and doesn’t actually remember it. So yeah, I felt old when he was learning about it in high school history classes; And I was only in my mid 20’s at the time.

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    Are they going to leave out the part where the president called it a hoax while simultaneously spitballing ideas about UV light, bleach and horse dewormer cures all while thousands of Americans were dying every day. Or the part where he emptied the treasury with zero oversight?