• felbane@lemmy.world
    167·
    10 months ago

    I unironically love this and would use it as my watch face just to get a reaction from my coworkers. Link?

  • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
    1063·
    10 months ago

    This is a pinetime it looks like.

    You should get one, open source and $30.

    • ramsay@lemmy.world
      27·
      10 months ago

      Does it support the watch command?

      user@watch:~ $ watch now

      Otherwise, who knows when “now” was…

      /s

      • Aceticon@lemmy.world
        31·
        10 months ago

        Yeah, but square screens are way cheaper to procure and to program for, and every little helps in an open source project aiming for $30.

      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
        12·
        10 months ago

        honestly just depends on what kind of watchface you want, square is cheaper and in some ways more convenient so if you don’t want an analog clockface there’s no reason to bother

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
      12·
      10 months ago

      Thanks for posting! I was looking at the pinephone esrlier but this would be an even better tinker device for me atm!

        • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
          5·
          10 months ago

          Interesting! I have read that its not capable of a daily driver at this point which isnt such a surprise given the fact that even the fairphone is 500+ $/€. Smartphones are more like computers than phones i guess.

          What was your experience with the pinetime? If you want to share I mean.

          • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
            61·
            10 months ago

            I use the pinetime as my daily watch now. I got it so I could control my audio book in my helmet while on my motorcycle but it has proven great all around. I use LineageOS on my phone and the pinetime was super easy to set up and use with gadgetbridge. No bullshit, no bloat, and as far as I can see no spying.

            • averyminya@beehaw.org
              2·
              10 months ago

              @Schorch@feddit.de do either of you have any particular comparison between the two watches? And maybe how portable the apps can be for each other? For example writing something for the PineTime and porting it to the bangle js2 or vice versa?

              I only ask because the former is so cheap and the latter is currently nigh quadruple the price. But my partner and both have been looking for a good smart watch that has the basics from what you want with one but without it being $150 to Samsung and bloated down. And while I’m not a programmer I’m nearly happy enough with the offerings I see on the websites. I do have a couple Pi projects and a home server that I go back and forth on. When I get the motivation I don’t usually have any issues and it’s at least in a usable state by the end, even if it’s not perfect.

              Thanks for any input!

              • InFerNo@lemmy.ml
                41·
                10 months ago

                The pinetime does not have many apps and you can’t simply install any. I think you have to alter Infinitime to implement the app, then deploy infinitime (with app included).

                Idk who downvoted this but that’s literally what the github page says you need to do.

                • averyminya@beehaw.org
                  1·
                  10 months ago

                  Ah thanks, I was just reading what was listed for each on their website, I didn’t even think to check the git for them.

            • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
              1·
              10 months ago

              Sounds great! I‘m using a legacy apple device (sigh) so I‘m not sure my phone will do a lot with it. Do you know what it can do on its own? Tell the time probably. It says you can use it with a pc as well. Turning on lights at home would be great. I could also see reverse engineering the key fob of my old bmw and using it as a key replacement. ;)

              • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
                1·
                10 months ago

                There is a lot of stuff people mess with, but with all linux people only some of it is useful or works. Can you side load on old apple stuff?

                • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
                  2·
                  10 months ago

                  Its not jailbroken so no, I cant sideload yet. But the EU is currently trying to force apple to allow sideloading. Should be any minute now! :)

                  I know about linux stuff. Running a daily driver for half a year now and a couple servers for a couple years. The apple thing is just one I bought before all that so I will use it until it breaks. I develop some low effort apps for my linux desktop so the watch should be cool for me.

                  The dev kit thing scares me a bit though. Says the assembled watch is not for development?

      • InFerNo@lemmy.ml
        4·
        10 months ago

        I tinker more with my pinephone than my pinetime, which is basically “waiting for an update and then applying it”. Out of the 2 the Pinetime is the one I use, the Pinephone is currently substituting as a pihole because I broke the Odroid C1.

        There’s a lot more to do and play with on the phone compared to the watch, but the watch is reliable to use daily.

    • jherazob@beehaw.orgEnglish
      7·
      10 months ago

      Gave a quick check, and it costs more than twice the price to buy it in EU, everything from Pine64, for some reason, odd, will look at this in more detail later at some point in case i missed something because the idea of an open, not locked, not tracking your every move smartwatch is appealing, but that doubling the price thing is a minus.

      • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
        3·
        10 months ago

        Yeah I had a similar experience getting mine shipped to Canada, $30 but another $30ish for shipping. I hope one day they are available easier and everywhere.

      • InFerNo@lemmy.ml
        3·
        10 months ago

        If it’s been in the drawer for all this time, charge it again, it will ptobably boot. I had a similar issue, but didn’t let the thing shut down conpletely (by making sure the battery is completely drained).

    • mortrek@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3·
      10 months ago

      What Android software could you use for managing it? Gadgetbridge seems to not have fully-developed support for it, even with their preferred firmware.

      I’m using Gadgetbridge with a hacked Amazfit Bip and I’m pretty happy. I like the multicolor TFT LCD w/no default backlight on the Bip, which is very readable in bright light and only requires a quick button press to get the backlight on in the dark, or you can waste more battery life and have it turn on when you turn it towards yourself. It’s also got built-in GPS/workout tracking (you have to manually flash the A-GPS data occasionally…), the ability to load little open source apps, sleep tracking, heart rate tracking, notifications, custom watchfaces, etc which I’m sure the Pinetime has most of. The battery also lasts ages since it uses such a low-power LCD.

      I’m not saying the Pinetime isn’t good, but decent alternatives exist. I would love a truly open-source smart watch, but maybe when the project is slightly more mature. I guess I could always get one and contribute to it… $30 is really not much. I’ll definitely try it if my Bip breaks.

      • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
        3·
        10 months ago

        I have found nothing that worked, was not spying on you, was not some hipster pipedream, and has lots of people working on it. Oh and gadgetbridge seems to work good, what do you mean not supported?

        • mortrek@lemmy.mlEnglish
          3·
          10 months ago

          Also the Bip cannot spy on you unless you install the official app. It’s limited to its interactions with apps over bluetooth, and I just use Gadgetbridge.

          • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
            1·
            10 months ago

            Glad you worked around the spying. I just wanted to give my money to a company that did not start by spying on me.

        • mortrek@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          According to the wiki, only one firmware is supported, and it’s early support with missing features. The wiki may be outdated, though.

          • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
            1·
            10 months ago

            Yeah, I have updated my firmware and its just fine. Like a lot of this type of development there is not great oversight or up to date documents.

    • smeg@feddit.ukEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      First I’ve heard of it, is it a worthy successor to the Pebble?

      • Schorsch@feddit.de
        5·
        10 months ago

        If you want a successor to the Pebble, also consider Bangle.js 2. It’s a little more expensive compared with the PineTime but I got one and I’m very happy!

        • smeg@feddit.ukEnglish
          2·
          10 months ago

          Ultimately the Pebble is still working fine though I know it will pack in eventually. All I need is something I can use to read notifications and control music, always-listening health stuff and fancy battery-depleting screens are a negative!

      • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
        2·
        10 months ago

        Never owned a Pebble, But I think as they still make the pinetime it bodes well.

      • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
        21·
        10 months ago

        But the pinetime uses the phones navigation/gps. I am not sure what that would do?

        • genie@lemmy.world
          2·
          10 months ago

          It doesn’t rely on phone navigation for starters :)

          I find it to be especially useful for running, or really sports in general where it’s not practical to carry a phone. Accelerometer step counting alone isn’t very accurate. Having GNSS on the watch is very helpful in a lot of ways.

          • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
            1·
            10 months ago

            Ah, that explains it then. I have not run in 10 years and would not have thought of that.

  • Mak'@pawb.social
    781·
    10 months ago

    That’s something I think I’d like to use, but I don’t know if could get over the fact that neither the date nor the time are in ISO 8601 format.

      • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
        5·
        10 months ago

        I once worked in a software shop where all release packages had the Unix epoch timestamp in the filename. Yes, these sorted brilliantly making it trivial to find the last one. But good luck finding a build from a specific date/time.

    • spader312@lemmy.world
      62·
      10 months ago

      The date format isn’t even human readable (at least in American). It should be Sun, Jan 14th

      • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
        91·
        10 months ago

        Considering it uses day then month, 24hr clock, and distance in km, I’m guessing the reason why it’s not “human readable in American” is because it’s intended to be “human readable for pretty much everybody else”

        The date format isn’t incorrect at all

        • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.caEnglish
          3·
          10 months ago

          IMO, that format is best for all releases.

          You want to talk about sorting releases, ISO 8601 works with sorting and it’s still human readable.

          My homies all start their date time stamped files with ISO 8601.

          • spader312@lemmy.world
            3·
            10 months ago

            I always start my files with iso8601, except on s3 it doesn’t like the colon. Gotta replace the colons lol

        • interolivary@beehaw.org
          1·
          10 months ago

          XML has a bad rap because people went a bit (ok a lot) overboard with it in the early years, pretty much like what happens with a lot of other technologies, but as far as structured and human-readable data formats with good schema and tooling support go, it’s pretty much unbeatable. Now that JSON is the New Good Tech and XML is the Old Bad Tech, too many developers use JSON where XML would absolutely make more sense, and then we end up with unholy abominations like Portable Text, which is JSON pretending to be XML, and is so incredibly verbose and monumentally stupid that it feels like some sort of joke esolang data format rather than something being used in a production system. But no, here we are, god is dead and JSON is XML.

          XML is terrific for building eg. structured markup languages with more complex markup than what something like Markdown can provide, and have the resulting files be comparatively readable, at least in comparison to the JSON-based alternatives – compare HTML to Portable Text, for example. XML has such a bad reputation – partially deservedly – that people just automatically assume it’s not a valid tool for anything modern, even when the modern “NoSQL”, “structured and typed data is for nerds, suck it” JSON solution is a giant pile of shit compared to the XML alternative

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    122·
    10 months ago

    You’ve got the hour hand and the minute hand… they’re right there. What’s wrong? /s