At a Senate hearing on AI’s impact on journalism, lawmakers backed media industry calls to make OpenAI and other tech companies pay to license news articles and other data used to train algorithms.

  • aelwero@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Are they going to pay for anything that ever inspired them? Every time you publish an article, you owe a dollar to every English teacher you ever had? Fill out your taxes and you owe your math teachers?

    It’s fucking goofy…

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      That’s a pretty dumb comparison. Are you suggesting that people who create stuff used to train AI are obligated to provide that education for free? People who create books/educational aids for teachers to use in classrooms still demand to be paid for that. Teachers are paid for delivering that education. The kids don’t pay the teachers, as a society we tax people because education benefits us all, but the teachers are still paid (not enough!)

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        I think he’s suggesting that it’s pretty dystopian to let creators decide that their content is free to view but only if you’re a human willing to let companies spy on you while watching it.

        It’s either free or it’s not.

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          Not a great comparison. AI training is not problematic because of consumption, it’s a problem because it is then used to circumvent copyright law.

          If you do want to argue with technicalities, you also have to contend with the fact that a large part of the concerned usage is not really free. Much of this online data is funded by advertisement. Scraping it constitutes circumvention.

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            8 months ago

            There are no contracts signed agreeing to that exchange by either me nor the scrapers. Legally, it’s free.

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        Human brain (any brain, really) is a natural neural network which is trained throughout its life the same way an artificial neural network is. Nothing is original, every creator is “stealing” from every other creator who’s work they have studied to become better creators. No creator ever in history has created anything in pure, absolute vaccuum. Every creation is a remix and amalgamation of previously created works.

        And intellectual property is a spook , anyway. No-one can own an idea.

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          Human brain (any brain, really) is a natural neural network

          But the big difference between us and the AI is that we have motivation and drive. We don’t exist for a split second for the sole purpose of fulfilling a prompt. We can take what we’ve learned and create new things with it. The AI just spits out what it already knows. Not what is possible to do with what it knows. It cannot invent.

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          Property is a spook generally.

          But I can’t blame journalist’s for wanting to eat.

          Which is what this is really about. Food and paying the bills. Not intellectual property.

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          The human brain isn’t a product that is being sold. Also in most cases, education is not free (school, university, …)

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            Education is free in most of the world. And people sell their brains all the time. It’s called “a job”.

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      8 months ago

      You’re getting downvoted, but it will be the next thing. Don’t you dare thank the people or books that inspired you when you give that Peabody acceptance speech.