• AlicePraxis [any]@hexbear.net
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    not sure if you are sincerely asking but I’m gonna answer your question sincerely anyway

    CW porn, kink

    gooning is fetishising one’s own addiction to porn. masturbating for hours on end to achieve a hypnotic state of mind-numbing horniness. so basically edging but often with an added humiliation kink - it’s become a common theme in femdom clips and hypno porn

    why is it bad: addiction to porn and masturbation can get in the way of achieving one’s goals or having meaningful relationships with people in the real world. also there is a lot of overlap with other problematic porn genres such as fetishization of trans women and racial fetishization etc.

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      addiction to porn

      Were the Mormons in Utah right to declare porn a public health crisis?

      EDIT: A link for you in case you wanted a look

      EDIT2: Sorry if this is coming off as aggressive. I am not trying to trap you or anything. I just like using this question as a gauge on where to work from when talking to people about this.

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        Not the OP but the “crisis” language is a bit alarmist for me. Porn addiction is one expression of an entire category of psychological addictions (that is, addictions that don’t have a chemical basis), and the way to combat it at a societal level is basically the same as combatting the rest of them - free therapy and counseling for all effected, improve people’s material conditions so that they have more resistance to addictive behaviors, destigmatize it so that people can talk about it more frankly and openly.

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          So its not about porn its the fact the person has an addictive personality? My issue with all this talk is trying to figure out who is anti-sex-worker and who is not.

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            Not an addictive personality either, no, though neurotypes and stuff can play into susceptibility. It’s more that we live in such an absurdly horrendous kind of hellworld that people reflexively turn to shit to numb the pain, and porn is one of those things. At least, that’s what I’ve gotten from what people have said

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        no, Utah republicans are likely doing that because they want to ban porn, which I don’t support because that would ultimately hurt sex workers more than anyone. besides I don’t think pornography is inherently bad, even if a lot of it is bad and the industry in which most of it is produced is exploitative (but so is every other capitalist industry). banning porn would of course not eliminate it but drive it underground, where it would be unregulated and get mixed up with some truly reprehensible things.

        frankly when I talk about porn addiction it’s somewhat personal because I myself am addicted to porn. but I don’t hate it or want it banned because of that. like a lot of people who are susceptible to porn addiction I’m incredibly alienated and isolated, so I think the key here is to create a less atomized society.

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          My sister who is ex-mormon like me, thinks that porn kills families still and will sight studies that Mormons commissioned to say porn is bad for the brain in general. You are talking about addiction which is totally different to me. As always I tell people I am an autistic person that loves things in neat categorized boxes in my head. So when someone says porn addiction it just makes a list fly through my mind on if this person means the industry is bad, the addiction factor is bad, or the fact that people even do it is bad.

          Thanks for letting me know your thoughts on the topic. I really enjoy reading what people think about it and I hope one day you can find a way to beat your addiction. For me I am mainly addicted to THC and really cannot shake the problem. I spend so much money a month on it that i almost cannot pay my bills. In that fact we have some solidarity in our fight against our inner demons.

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            I struggle with the same exact things and often with the same exact subject.

            In my opinion, it’s basically that the porn industry is bad because it’s misogynistic (and that the current form of dominant pornography seriously incentivizes social media like constant consumption)

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          Im not shaming the kink part, I’m shaming the vanilla part.

          Or to be more serious, yeah it was a shitty comment, I’m sorry. I legitimately have nothing against “gooners”. I do think we should maybe have better content for them though that isn’t just misogynistic slop 90% of the time

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          When I first heard of goon porn and looked for some videos to figure out what it was, I was met with a wall of gay and trans porn compilations. Straight cis goon porn is actually a small minority from what I have seen.

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            Not gonna speak on gay porn because idk how that interfaces with gooning, but I know for a fact the majority of “trans” porn out there is made entirely to fetishize trans people (AKA never made by trans people or with actual respect)

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            My sense from the goon reddit is that it’s straight people who are fetishizing their own act of cumming, and the cumming of their gooner brethren. So seeing cocks cum is the focus, and I guess it’s especially nice when the cock is attached to a woman

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    live-tucker-reaction

    CW tucker carlson

    live-tucker-reaction

    Don’t judge me.

    Don’t you dare fucking judge me you fucking removed commie schmuck

    Gooning is masculine. It’s masculinity in pure form. It’s a man getting together with himself to be a man. To embrace being a white male in a way our feminist-woke dominated society won’t allow. What does it mean to be male? The penis. It’s about worshipping your cock as a source of your own masculine pride.

    I first invented gooning in 2007 after a debate with John Stewart. He tore me apart, I was ready to punch him on stage and unleash all of my rage. It turned me on so much. During the commercial break I went to the green room to jerk off harder than I ever did before. No hand lotion I was ready to rip my cock off why imaging Mrs Sean Hannity and her boozankers, good lord they were like expired watermelons filled with watery mustard. So hot. Every green room in major network studios has a stack of playboys inside, for the men yes, but mostly to let female anchors and guest know they aren’t respect.

    I keep glue sticks on my self to munch on when I need a quick snack so I tore out every page of the playboys and glued them all over the walls, ceiling, and floor. Every single square inch filled with hottest women of the early 70s. Coincidently this was also the first time I had ever jerked off but I figured it out quick. It was like I was traveling through the end scene of 2001: A Space Odyssey (don’t watch btw its too woke). Stars had filled my brain, literal stars, not just visions of bright lights but energy masses 10,000,000 times the size of Earth burning at 25,000 times the intensity of our dying sun were contained in my brain, I could see colors that God couldn’t see. (Catholic God btw IDK if Mormon God could see anything different). I was there for hours, days, weeks, I hadn’t eaten or drank anything for a millennium. I didn’t feel the need to after a few centuries.

    Suddenly I heard a knock on my door, and John Stewart had walked inside. “Hey pal how are you you doing? Why do you have the lights turned off?” I was sitting in complete darkness in the green room. There were no stars, no gods, even no playboys. Just my glue stick and a broken light bulb. “I’m doing fine, John, just fine. Let’s get back to our desk before the commercial ends”.

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      to embrace being a white male in a way our feminist-woke dominated society won’t allow.

      the dom/sub/hypnosis part is literally the only remotely interesting part about gooning howdy-skull

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      I first invented gooning in 2007 after a debate with John Stewart. He tore me apart, I was ready to punch him on stage and unleash all of my rage. It turned me on so much.

      True motive for debate perverts?

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    there are two kinds of internet users when you ask about porn:

    1. “porn is bad, it makes you weak” (subtype of this is the Progressive version, where porn is bad and makes you weak because the porn industry hurts women, which is true, but for some reason these people have literally never heard of any other form of erotic media and act like it’s some sort of ontological fact and not something caused by social circumstance)

    2. “porn is good, x minority deserves to be dehumanized even when i get off to them”

    edit: sorry, that was an unrelated rant. Gooning is when you play Goonstation. It’s a good server!

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        No, the feminism is a minority! The majority of anti-porn people just hate it because women bad. Remember, if something seems bad in hellworld, it’s always worse!

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            Well… That perspective on porn seems to be the dominant one here and on other lefty areas. I unironically think the Volcel meme severely affected the political takes people have

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              It should not have; the Volcel meme should function exclusively to keep ridiculous horniness out of a community that is supposed to be comfy and chill. Idk why people look at the Volcel meme and suddenlu become catholics

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                I think, if there is any credibility to my own conspiracy theory, it’s that it allows people who unironically have sex-negative perspectives to use it as a mask and face no criticism of it, because anyone who criticizes a dumb meme is just ruining good clean fun (not true but that’s the perspective)

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    The point is, ladies and gentleman, that gooning, for lack of a better word, is good.

    Gooning is right.

    Gooning works.

    Gooning clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Goon, in all of its forms; gooning for life, for cum, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And gooning, you mark my words, will not only save Hexbear, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you very much.

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      Hi, I’m goon actor Michael Douglas, reprising my role as Gordon Gecko, except now it’s Goondon’t Geccum, in the movie Wall-to-wall monitors playing very hardcore pornography as I crank my sore meat Street

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          So I think he keep an eye on a few of those fringe rightwing amateur media commentators who livestream at protests and come up with the wildest conspiracy theories about adrenochrome and Joe Biden being a clone and how the Hawaii fires were caused by space lasers and shit so they can sell WWG1WGA merch and crypto to their audiences. There must be some story going around those circles about a mall at Miami and aliens?

          The other stuff he’s talking about is just a list of references specific to American mall culture hallmarks to make his conspiracy theory parody story as absurd as possible.

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    Goon is an extremely cheap type of wine sold in cardboard boxes. It’s core audience are alcoholic working poor in Australia. It’s an industry that preys on disenfranchised proles (and sometimes broke uni students) and their alcohol addictions.

    As such, many in polite society dislike goon due to its association with the Poor’s and the working class.

    Others despise goon as it perpetuates a cycle of alcoholism.

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      As an alcoholic who used to drink two or three boxes of goon a week… Yeah, but it did also mean my alcoholism didn’t break the bank. Not that that’s a “good” reason for such easily available alcohol. That said, it’s actually a surprisingly good money <-> calories ratio and helps you forget a mountain of debt sitting around that $45 wouldn’t put a dent in.

      Advising you don’t do this.

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        Yeah honestly, goon and orange juice was a staple of uni parties in the early 2010’s, until they invented Little Fat Lamb. Had friends that subsisted off of goon and mi goreng noodles for basically 4 years.

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    I mean, if you goon once in a blue moon, it’s all well and good. Everything in moderation, whether that be with gooning or something more vanilla like fireplay.

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    There’s a whole discourse around this that basically amounts to “gooners are fascists” but I’m convinced that gooning is already undergoing a transition into standard kink spaces and lgbt spaces to the point that it will lose all association with prior shitheads that have popularised it as a term. Once too many queers are saying it the bad crowds will hate it.

    Anyway it’s just masturbation/porn addiction and long session edging where people masturbate for several hours in a row given a new word to make it less negative for its practitioners.