New York Times managed this with eloquence.

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      And another that is labeled “ate a bullet for breaking a secure barrier”.

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        Imagine trying to martyr someone climbing through a broken window to threaten Congress while being warned by the Capitol Police that they will shoot them for doing it.

        Regardless of whether some Congress critters deserve to be threatened, it’s just the most privileged idiocy at best, especially to do it because the election didn’t go the way you wanted.

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          I get what you’re saying, but imagine for a second that Trump managed to convince two states legislators to send in R electoral college votes and throw out the democratic election. Imagine how pissed you’d be. It’s not that hard to imagine liberals storming the capital because of a stolen election.

          I don’t find the reverse scenario to be that far fetched. I get their misplaced anger. They were sold lies and those lies are enraging if you believe them. I don’t think it’s that hard to see the other side’s viewpoint.

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            If some dumbass lib climbed through a window at the head of mob chanting for the President’s blood because they lost and were stupid enough to fall for easily disproven lie I also wouldn’t blame the Secret Service for popping their head.

            I’d say the exact same thing as I say about Babbit.

            “Skill Issue.”

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            And everyone would’ve felt completely justified. These people think they’re patriots, they mostly have various shades of untreated mental illnesses, it’s not always their fault. Roger Stone and Steve Bannon will swing when the day comes.

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          It’s probably already been said, but that event is White Privilege personified. The fact that you have so little interaction with law enforcement, not even any real negative interaction, and see all the white badasses in movies able to not get shot when they’re the Badass In The Right and the Dumb Cops Don’t Get It, so they let you by…

          Think how many stories of minorities getting serious abuse, fear, or even just killed. Those stories become the infamous “Talk” some PoC parents have to have with their kids about interaction with the police. It’s generational. They’d know the chance of being shot is real.

          But this white chick? Nah. Not gonna worry. The shock from everyone surrounding the issue is just further proof.

          Not trying to make this a race thing, but just SMH at the whole wildly different worldview some people have.

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      Being there was perfectly legal. Attending a riot can be a lot of fun. In fact, if everyone is well behaved, it’s encouraged and called peaceful protest.

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        Everyone that entered did so illegally. The ones that stayed outside were perfectly legal, and are not part of the group that is still wanted by law enforcement.

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        Being there was not legal they were told to disperse when they failed to do so it then became a crime.

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          Moreover, a riot is not a protest and even a protest isn’t always legal (even in western countries where they are a fundamental right, i.e. an expression of free speech)

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    I wish this graphic included a # and % for each category and color coded for misdemeanants and felons.

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        This certainly is data, which doesn’t exist purely in tabular tables. If you’re interested in doing so you could count to see how many records exists in the set, and you can easily view the “prosecution_result” field for each record. The data is also arranged into groups for easier consumption of trends that the creator is showcasing.

        If you were to look at the raw data, probably stored in tabular records, you wouldn’t gain much insight into the overarching trends without spending more time studying and taking notes than the few seconds it took to absorb the trends in the author’s visualization.

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        Assuming they had a proper criteria/methodology rather than just anecdotes and the like, it’s data. It’s a weird visualization of that data, but it’s still data.

        Phrased another way, using only the data provided by the drawing, you could turn this into more common presentations. This includes a spreadsheet, pie chart, or a bar graph.

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    Much like Jesus died for your sins, they were arrested for my amusement

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      In that case, the mediator between Jesus dying for your sins and them being arrested for your amusement is Chris Chan being arrested for your sins 😂

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    The majority of them were given charges of breaking and entering into a capitol building or picketing in a capitol building. Not really sure what the graphic is trying to convey. It makes it seem like the majority plead guilty to inssurrection.

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      I agree - people were under-charged.

      It’s showing what it says on the label - outcomes of cases relating to Jan 6. People are overwhelmingly guilty. Where’s the reference to insurrection?

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    It’s not as clear as it should be, it means convicted people that are still fighting the charges

    Add: I want to read the article of the story behind the two who were acquitted.

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      I want to read the article of the story behind the two who were acquitted.

      My guess: able to hire expensive lawyers.

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        I vaguely recall one of them having not entered the Capitol? So they were part of the group milling around outside, which mostly wasn’t charged.

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      I’d expect more acquittals tbh. It was, at the outset, a legal and constitutionally protected protest. I’m still not entirely on board with calling it an insurrection, a coup, etc. but it definitely devolved into a non-peaceful event, and I’m pretty ambivalent when it comes to the prosecutions due to that. They fucked around, they should find out. You don’t wander off with the speaker of the house’s podium and not have the full focus of government come down on your ass.

      I would 100% expect acquittals for anyone who stayed outside though, as a hypothetical condition that might warrant acquittal… That for me would be a solid indicator that their intent was limited to peaceful protest. Could very well be that there were only two people who did so.

      I’d also like to read an article on the acquittals, but I find their presence to be encouraging, and I’m assuming you don’t feel that way.

      On the left side of the fence though, the presence of acquittals, even so few, lends a great deal of credibility to the cases… Does it not? Wasn’t a kangaroo court if it wasn’t 100%, right? I think so anyway :)

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        This is more likely a case where the people that were only outside were never even convicted of a crime.

        The FBI seems to be after the people they have credible evidence of actually engaging in violence or planned violence.

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            Yeah, the feds have an astonishingly high conviction rate in general, because they typically only bother prosecuting the cases they know they can win. By the time you’re indicted, their case against you is likely already ironclad. Which brings us to the current post, where the overwhelming majority of people who were prosecuted either took a plea deal or were found guilty.

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        I’m still not entirely on board with calling it an insurrection, a coup, etc.

        What were they trying to do, and how were they trying to accomplish it?

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        There’s video of people outside fighting the police. “Just being outside” isn’t really a valid defense either.

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    But wouldn’t the pleaded guilty and convicted people overlap?

    Also, source article?

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      the distinction is between those who worked out a plea bargain (plead guilty) and those who were found guilty by a jury at trial (plead not guilty and were then convicted). both are, technically, convictions, but the difference is between those who owned up to their crimes (and saved the courts and the taxpayers the trouble and expense of a trial) and those who tried to get away with it.

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        Yeah I assumed that, but the graphic should really make that clear.

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    If these people were on the left they wouldn’t even be alive to get convicted. Instead, all but the most egregious get to walk off scot free.

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    Oh, look what just dropped into my news feed:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-of-woman-shot-during-january-6-capitol-riot-sues-us-government-seeking-30-million/ar-AA1myxt8?ocid=U506DHP&pc=U506&cvid=25de3c1c41534add9b0503430090a01f&ei=27

    Conservative activist group Judicial Watch said in a Friday press release its lawyers are representing Aaron Babbitt in the lawsuit. Babbitt is seeking $30 million.

    But Babbitt said in the lawsuit his wife was ambushed when she was shot and multiple people yelled, “You just murdered her.”

    Jesus christ these people are fucking morons. “ambushed”? An officer yelling at you with a gun pointed at you is “ambushed”? Who gives a fuck what people yelled.

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    I don’t see any orange dots. Where are the orange dots? We know there should be orange dots there. Not in the acquitted pile either. Where are the orange dots?

    Where are the red dots? I don’t see any red dots there. There were a lot of red dots involved with this. They still are.

    Where are the red and orange dots?