A 14-year-old boy allegedly fatally shot his older sister in Florida after a family argument over Christmas presents, officials said Tuesday.

The teen had been out shopping on Christmas Eve with Abrielle Baldwin, his 23-year-old sister, as well as his mother, 15-year-old brother and sister’s children, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said during a news conference.

The teenage brothers got into an argument about who was getting more Christmas presents.

“They had this family spat about who was getting what and what money was being spent on who, and they were having this big thing going on in this store,” Gualtieri said.

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    Go into any of the relationship subreddits today and for the next few days and you will see countless Americans melting down into various degrees of rage and bitterness over Xmas presents.

    It’s like this very goddamn year.

    Can anyone explain this part of the culture to me?

    I’m not saying I hate all Americans or anything ridiculous like that, the cast majority of Americans I’ve met are good hearted people but when it comes to Xmas and in what I’m given understand is the modern vernacular: “y’all cray.”

    Don’t any of your families still watch the Charlie Brown Christmas? Because you really should.

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      Go toxic places to read toxic things. I’ve never heard of this. But also I can’t imagine going to a relationship board and expecting to come away with anything but misanthropy regardless of time of year.

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      There are 335 million people in the United States.

      One asshat shot someone.

      I’m not defending guns, shitty culture, or shitty people, but this is clearly a case where this kid has some sort of mental disorder. Literally hundreds of millions of families watched Charlie Brown and went the entire holiday without murdering each other

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            Each one of the 89 shootings was one too many.

            Any idea how many shootings were on Christmas day in Australia, Canada or Switzerland where a lot of people have guns too?

            By the way, if you look at shootings in Australia before and after semi-automatic rifles got banned in 1996 you know how to improve the situation in the US.

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              Someone in Prague just killed 15 people with a bolt action firearm…

              We have an issue with our society, not our firearms.

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                Where did you see that it was a bolt action rifle? I couldn’t find any real details on the weapons used. I’m looking for sensible gun policies to advocate for in the US and a mass shooting with a bolt action refutes my “limit the rate of fire” idea.

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                  There is a video out there, and it shows him cycling the action. It was basically a dressed up hunting rifle he used.

                  If you’re actually wanting to solve our violence problem, you go to the root of our societies issues, not the tool used. All of these things below would curb our violence as a whole 1000xs more than any new gun control can.

                  We can start with:

                  • Single payer healthcare

                  • Ending the War on Drugs

                  • Ending Qualified immunity

                  • Properly funding our schools and not just rich white suburb schools.

                  • Build more schools and hire more teachers for proper pay so the class room sizes aren’t 30-40 kids for one teacher.

                  • UBI (at least start talking about it) once AI takes over most of the blue collar jobs.

                  • End for profit prisons

                  • Enforce the laws already on the books

                  • Make sure there are safety nets for poor families so the kids don’t turn to violence/gangs to survive.

                  • Increase the minimum wage

                  • Recreate our mental healthcare so kids don’t turn to the internet for support. And to help veterans not end up as a suicide number.

                  • Actively make a law to solidify Pro-choice rights. More unwanted children do not help our situation.

                  • Banning Insider Trading for Congress

                  • Term limits

                  • Ranked Choice Voting so we can move away from a 2 party system

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                Does it not seem reasonable to take away guns while we solve our society issues ?

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              By the way, if you look at shootings in Australia before and after semi-automatic rifles got banned in 1996 you know how to improve the situation in the US.

              I’m not sure if you’re aware of this, but you can also shoot people with bolt actions, lever actions; and SA, DA, and S/DA revolvers.

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          See, if it were 90 I could understand you being upset…, but it’s just 89! are we really going to make a scene about 89 totally avoidable deaths ?? when we could just enjoy Christmas with the children we might lose tomorrow ?

          (thanks for the source)

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        If it was the only shooting that day, it would have been a peaceful one for a change. Hint: It wasn’t.

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          Like I said, I’m not defending guns.

          What I hate is people who attack where I live, with sweeping generalizations about how shitty a place it is. It isn’t. The United States is entirely neutral. There are good things about it and bad things about it. Every country has their issues, and reducing violent crimes to such a simplistic focus as “lol, guns bad, USA sucks” is catastrophically stupid.

          One of the main ways I judge people is if they punch down. A good example of this is Trump’s feud with Greta Thunberg. At the time he was president of the United States. And she was a 16 year old autistic girl. Think about that. For a time the president of the United States, a person with literal tens of thousands of nuclear weapons at their disposal, decided that a 16 year old, foreign, autistic girl needed the focus of his ire. That’s punching down. And it’s classless.

          So if you think the United States is shit, that’s fine. But if you live in a place that you think is so much better than it, you can say that in a way that’s constructive. There’s no need to attack somebody or some thing you think you’re better than

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            The United States is entirely neutral.

            No. Definitely not. When it comes to violent crimes, with guns or otherwise, the US is anything but “neutral”. It is a sore point sticking out of all western countries.

            There’s no need to attack somebody or some thing you think you’re better than

            Well, it is a fact that shootings are an everyday occurrence in the US. Heck, even mass shootings (plural!) are a normal, everyday occurrence in the US, to the point that mass shootings with less than ten dead people rarely make the news anymore in the US. I’m not attacking you, I’m just stating the facts. But yes, I think any place in the world where things like that are not normal, everyday events is inherently a better place. Try to change my mind on that.

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      Entirely too many people base their self worth on what other people think of them.

      So “I didn’t get enough shinies” = “nobody really loves me” = “I’m a worthless human being”.

      Alternately “I didn’t get enough shinies for my kids” = “I’m a bad parent” = “I’m a worthless human being.”

      Then that gets reflected outwards, poorly. :(

      Breaking that cycle of seeking approval from other people is one of the hardest things you can do. At our core, we all seek validation on some level or other.

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        It’s mostly people running a mental ledger then comparing the value of presents to how much they do in the relationship as a journal for the shortfall in gift value.

        Often siblings resenting one another for perceived (or even sometimes objectively clear) favouritism.