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    11 months ago

    because Confucius isn’t as good a person (or ideology) as people seem to think, unless you are the current ruler, then it’s amazing

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      11 months ago

      Have you read any of Confucius writings? Rulers actually have higher expectations for them than common folk. If a ruler doesn’t act properly and conduct the proper rituals, then their people can’t be expected either. I’m not sure how familiar you are with Confucian thought, I’m struggling to understand what you are basing that statement on.

      “The Master said, "If the people be led by laws, and uniformity sought to be given them by punishments, they will try to avoid the punishment, but have no sense of shame.

      “If they be led by virtue, and uniformity sought to be given them by the rules of propriety, they will have the sense of shame, and moreover will become good.”

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        11 months ago

        and the joke is, who sets these traditions and rules? go a bit farther, and you learn the justification of these rules is “there wasn’t a natural disaster recently”

        like sure there are stringent rules the leader must follow, but whatever the leader decides the rules should be is what even these rules are