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      • ChelskiS@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Goff is a QB who is as good as his supporting cast

        Their oline is often dominant and it makes him look good. If his line is struggling, goff cant overcome it because he lacks physical ability

        He´s OK. Not much more to say about it

        • BZNagain@alien.topB
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          10 months ago

          To be fair I don’t think any of these QBs are going to do well when the average time in pocket is 1.47 seconds like it was Thanksgiving.

          Cousins would crumble. Love would be early season Love. Thabksgiving he looked good but the Lions were giving him over 3 seconds per drop back

          Fields would rack up rushing yards in a likely loss.

          Interestingly aside from the fumbles Goff had a good day Thursday. Over 300 yards and over 100 QBR. Two TDs and no picks. All with an rusher in his face almost every play.

      • Crooked_Sartre@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Hard to make that decision when the only time I watch Goff play is against us and we dominated him all game

        • BoxAndShiv@alien.topB
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          10 months ago

          Two of the picks he threw against y’all weren’t really his fault tbf. The first one was caused because LaPorta got knocked down on his route by a defender, and the third one was tipped. The second one was ugly though and he had another throw that should have been picked, so I guess it evens out a bit.

          Aside from the last two games, he has really played well this season. Hopefully he returns to form here soon, or we are really gonna struggle.

    • COYS234@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Gonna rank them because why not?

      1. Kirk: Was looking really good until he tore his Achilles. He doesn’t do anything special, but he does the right things consistently and decisively, which when you have the Vikings’ weapons is exactly what you want.

      2. Goff: A slightly above average QB who is more of a product of his environment than a real difference maker. In the rare games where he’s pressured and forced to make tough plays, you start to see him look more like the Rams version. With that great OL and playcalling he doesn’t have to deal with that much.

      3. Love: Talented but flawed with plenty of inconsistency. He definitely shows flashes of his talent, and has been playing really well the last few games. Looking at the season as a whole though, he’s had some bad stretches too. At worst, I think he’s probably a below-average starter, but if he can clean things up he could easily push top-10.

      4. Fields: Insanely talented but very frustrating. In terms of arm talent and athleticism, there’s maybe 5 QBs more gifted than Fields. There is practically nothing on the field he can’t do physically. That being said, there’s also not a WR he can’t miss wildly, a read he can’t blow, or a silly pick he can’t throw.

      • Wisdomlost@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Your assessment of Goff hurts my feelings because it’s so accurate. Give him a solid o line with a halfway decent run game and he can light defenses up. If you put him under pressure or make the team one dimensional he can still pull it off but it will be a struggle. He’s much better than he was in his last year on rhe Rams but I think we have seen his ceiling and it’s like 8 or 12th best in the league.

    • middleimpact445@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Kirk is far and away the best qb in the division at the moment. Sucks that he got hurt, he’s just about the most likeable player in the division that isn’t on the Bears. “He’s a nice Viking.”

      Love hasn’t looked good, but better overall the past couple games. The scary thing is he’s probably hindered by his supporting cast, and the Packers will probably be good again if he gets decent weapons. He flashes skill at times, but he does have a terrible deep ball. Decent game manager.

      Fields either plays better than Kirk or worse than Love. No in between.

      Jokes aside, he’s very talented and has a great knack for big plays, but he has struggled to prove that he can handle standing in the pocket and making a read, especially down the middle of the field. Love the guy but his time’s running out. IMO, he would be “the guy” if we didn’t have the Panthers’ pick.

      Jared Goff.

      • ChelskiS@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Cant say I agree with the Love part. I think the being hindered by support cast only counts for a few drops

        Either their WR´s or their coaching is underrated as hell, because there always seems to be someone massively open. And Love does a good job finding him

        Also their oline is still very good… whenever I lurk their gametime thread and they are ranting that their oline stinks, I realize QB isnt the only position they are spoiled as hell with

        I´d say he has an above average supporting cast at minimum. Its just a lot of New or unknown names, but that will probably change soon

        • DesignerPension1@alien.topB
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          10 months ago

          As others have said, our run defense has been poor for several years, and many fans will blame that on the o-line, which is probably somewhat warranted.

          There were stretches earlier this year that the o-line looked suspect; such as the center blocking the guard instead of anyone on defense, but those issues have been cleaned up over the past few games.

        • BellacosePlayer@alien.topB
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          10 months ago

          Cant say I agree with the Love part. I think the being hindered by support cast only counts for a few drops

          they had (and still have) people running the wrong routes. MLF’s scheme is complex and his first year took around this time this season for it to click with everyone

      • murphy1377@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        I don’t know if Ive seen fields play better than Kirk ever…

        Cousins Goff Love Fields

      • Corvus-Rex@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Regarding Love’s deep ball, from what I’ve seen in JTs qb school analysis, Love mainly just has some poor footwork and waits too long on many of his throws. I expect that stuff to be much more polished next season after this offense as a whole has had more time to gel together. Plus they’ve been playing with a shitload of dead cap and the injury bug following Jones, Watson, and the team as a whole. Otherwise, I definitely agree with your analysis.