• Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
    887·
    10 months ago

    I really don’t like how “consumer-friendly” means “GUI that resembles Windows” in the minds of so many people.

    • monkeyman512@lemmy.worldEnglish
      43·
      10 months ago

      Gotta meet the customer where they are, not where you would like them to be. Most people don’t want to learn a new thing.

      • RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml
        151·
        10 months ago

        You gotta meet the customer halfway until you get enough of them hooked, then slowly start introducing new ideas into their mental ecosystems that align with your vision.

        • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘English
          51·
          10 months ago

          Then add adverts into that ecosystem and center their program menu. Ooh! Then change their right menus! They’d love that! Or, maybe they won’t, but whatever.

        • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9·
          10 months ago

          The company was run by morons so “Xerox” deserves being synonymous with “company run by morons”. But the actual Xerox employees who invented the basic GUI deserve credit for being the great inventors they were. Unfortunately I have no fucking idea who those actual people were.

      • Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
        82·
        10 months ago

        But no person on the planet, except the nerdiest of pedants, are thinking of Xerox when they see Windows interface. They think of Windows, even if it’s KDE

    • monsterpiece42@reddthat.com
      71·
      10 months ago

      I like the terminal but don’t remember all the arguments. I find that clunky. That’s my main issue with it. (I’m open to suggestions if anyone has any)

      • Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
        31·
        10 months ago

        I highly recommend zsh. It takes a moment to setup initially, but you can use oh-my-zsh to just skip that part and use one of the many, many presets, and it supports plugins, of which there are many. It gives you tab support for so many popular commands, you will never need to remember them, and it has a lot of small improvements that makes your terminal life a breath. For example, if you do cd tab in bash, it will give you a list of subdirrectories. If you do the same in zsh, it will give you that list and a cursor that you can use to navigate said list, so instead of typing the dir, you can do cd tab tab tab enter

          • Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
            3·
            10 months ago

            I have very little experience with fish, but by my first experience zsh was way better at handling wildcard matching, and for me it’s half of the stuff I do. You are trying to open a file and all you remember is that it has some substring in the name probably, you just type some of it, double tab, and you have all the files that match. At the time I was trying it, fish couldn’t do it.

    • platypus_plumba@lemmy.world
      4·
      10 months ago

      I was just forced to Switch to Mac and let me tell you that I’m actually enjoying it.

      Things I like so far:

      • An actual modern email client that isn’t web based. Web mail clients feel so cumbersome.

      • Same thing for a calendar application.

      • Nice reminders app out of the box. Can schedule alarms on reminders and categorize them.

      • Nice notes app that I don’t need to constantly save. It never closes, which feels great compared to Gedit.

      • Security. Apps notify me when they want to access system resources and I have to authorize them.

      • Unix. Unix matters a lot.

      • Homebrew has incredible support. I can install almost anything with it.

      • Iterm2 feels almost like Terminator.

      Things I hate:

      • The fact that they have another keyboard layout. Although, after 3 days I’m getting used.

      • Updates take forever, it’s insane.

      • Can’t easily switch back and forth (not cycle) between windows of same apps. Haven’t figured this one out.

      • Docker runs in a VM, it sucks.

      • Can’t get used to multiple desktops. I hate them.

      Honestly, it isn’t as bad as Windows. As long as I have a terminal and a nice shell, I’m good.

      • Octopus@thelemmy.club
        1·
        10 months ago

        I use macOS as my daily driver, though still use Linux sometimes. When I dual-booted macOS with Linux, I immediately fell in love. I don’t have a Mac, but my next computer will be a MacBook. Of course there are things I don’t like, but I will not write it down right now, maybe edit this comment later. I love the virtual desktops tough, I always press the green button on Safari to maximize, and put it on a new desktop, so I can easily switch with a 4-finger swipe, and I don’t have to overlay another window or Safari when I am switching apps.

    • KeenFlame@feddit.nu
      2·
      10 months ago

      Yeah wow why don’t people like stuff like the compaq book and shit, it was damn impressive!

  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
    496·
    10 months ago

    The purpose of Unix was to be user friendly. And it is. You haven’t seen what it replaced.

    Also friendliness doesn’t require a Fisher Price interface.

      • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
        5·
        10 months ago

        Unix was meant to be much friendlier than the mainframe systems that wer prevalent at the time and which wer horrible to use without a lot of training (or even with it). By contrast, Unix commands were simple, self documenting. Anyone could use it.

          • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
            1·
            10 months ago

            Well, today it’s arguably more advanced, interface wise, than the other systems since they keep copying stuff from the X11 front ends.

            All the current GUIs are basically the same Once you’ve seen a couple WIMP interfaces, you’ve seen them all.

  • Ooops@kbin.social
    262·
    10 months ago

    That’s defintiely the wrong title.

    No, it’s not the user catching Linux in trying to pretend user friendliness witht the terminal.

    It’s Linux catching the user in still hating it when he gets the wanted user friendliness, for the sole reason of being conditioned to hate the terminal.

    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
      10·
      10 months ago

      If you are able to use those buttons in the terminal, it wouldn’t be a terminal.

      • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
        2·
        10 months ago

        What? The person you’re replying to doesn’t have the best argument in the world so I’m not exactly siding with them, but also a lot of terminals very much do support mouse input. I’m not sure which all ones it is, but I know the gnome terminal does and I’m pretty sure Konsole does as well. Obviously not every program you run in the terminal is going to support it but off the top of my head I remember vim does as well as I’m pretty sure dialog

  • kttnpunk@lemmy.worldEnglish
    102·
    10 months ago

    I find ASCII incredibly readable honestly. I use pixel fonts too, but I love the sharp blocky characters it’s so much easier on the eyes than whatever windows or iOS has going on by default

      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        Not really relevant, but as a kid I though the “II” part of ASCII was roman numerals. I was all the way to graduate school before my prof literally on the floor laughing because I had said “asskey two” set me straight.

  • LovePoson@lemmy.world
    2·
    9 months ago

    Linux is just as user friendly. It’s just that you can’t compare the experience you already have on something completely different